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I am looking for an information on my great great great grandfather, Thomas O'Dougherty. I am unaware of where he was born but I know that at the age of 17 was tried for the crime of Larcey in the County of Tyrone on the 8th March 1842, which he received 7 years transporation to Van Diemen's Land (Tasmania, Australia).  

Netty

Sunday 1st Jan 2017, 06:28AM

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  • Netty,

    Difficult to trace without some idea of where in Tyrone the family lived. It’s also a fairly common name, so even if you find someone of about the right age, without parents names it’d be difficult to know whether you have the right one. In Tyrone the name tends to be Dougherty rather than O’D. The O prefix was detachable and frequently dispensed with.

    I had a look in the Belfast Newsletter to see if the case got a mention. There is a report on 11th March 1842 of the jury being sworn in for the Tyrone Assizes (which I would expect were held in Omagh) but nothing more about any individual cases so far as I can see. The Newsletter is on-line on Ancestry, so if you have  asubscription, you might want to go through it for a few editions after 8th March, in case there is a mention of this case. Generally the reports are pretty brief thogh, so don't expect too much. The actual court papers for that period do not appear to have survived. The offence Thomas was charged with would have been larceny (theft).

    If you don’t have parents names, DNA testing might be the only way forward.

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Sunday 1st Jan 2017, 04:07PM
  • Happy New Year Netty & Elwyn!

    Surprisingly, this is the only Thomas O'Dougherty (+ surname variants) birth/baptism record from Tyrone 1827 + - 5 years on www.rootsireland.ie/:

    Name:Thomas DohertyDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:01-Mar-1829Address:CalkeelParish/District:DRUMRAGHGender:MaleCountyTYRONE
    Denomination:Church Of Ireland
    Father:Dominick Doherty

    Do you happen to know if he was C of I?

    I have access to ancestry if you don't so can follow up on Elwyn's suggestions if needed.

    Col

    ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Sunday 1st Jan 2017, 09:19PM
  • Thank you both Elwyn and Col for your replies,

    I do know that from Thomas' convict record that he was Roman Catholic and that he could read and write. He was charged with larcey for stealing 2 pound & 2 shillings from his employer a Mr Robert McKeon. His convict record also names a step-mother, Margaret and it is known that he had a half brother, William. It has been suggested that Thomas' father name was Andy.

    Surprisingly, Thomas was a good mariner and in fact named this as his occupation on his marriage certificate only 4 years after his recieving his certificate of freedom, which could mean that he had learn the sea life back in Ireland.

    I hope this extra information helps.... I would so love to find out more about Thomas and his family.

    Cheers Netty

    Netty

    Monday 2nd Jan 2017, 11:22AM
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    No luck with the new info I'm afraid Netty; no Thomas with father Andrew in any county

    No birth/baptism of William with father Andrew either.

    No marriage record of Andrew and Margaret in Tyrone before 1862; some for other counties from 1832: none mentions previously married however

    Church MarriageDohertyAndrew1832Co. Cork
    Church MarriageDohertyAndrew1857Co. Dublin
    Civil MarriageDoughertyAndrew1858Co. Down
    Civil MarriageDoughertyAndrew1862Co. Tyrone
    Church MarriageDohertyAndrew1887Co. Derry
    Church MarriageDohertyAndrew Joseph1897Co. Antrim
    Civil MarriageDohertyAndrew1920Co. Derry

    Col

    ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Wednesday 4th Jan 2017, 09:30AM
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    Hi Netty,

    I married a Branagan, whose mother was a Dougherty (Doherty) ... I have contacted my sister-in-law who has done all of their family history, but Thomas married and had a large family in Tasmania. The decendents mostly all still live in Australia.

    Hopfully the attachments help.

    My sister in law is Tina and her email is cjaggard@bigpond.com

    Mary-Anne

    Mabs

    Wednesday 8th Feb 2017, 12:47AM
  • Dear Mary-Anne,

    Thank you for your reply this is awesome, and in fact I am one of the descentants from Thomas and Agnes' marriage. I will contact your sister-in-law as i am at the point where i am interested in his life back in Ireland.

    Cheers Netty

    Netty

    Thursday 9th Feb 2017, 01:28PM
  • I am looking for any suggestions for a reseacher to work on my behalf privately on my Thomas Dougherty please. 

    Netty

    Friday 29th Apr 2022, 10:40AM
  • I am looking for any suggestions for a reseacher to work on my behalf privately on my Thomas Dougherty please. 

    Netty

    Friday 29th Apr 2022, 10:40AM
  • Index to Griffiths Valuation, Drumragh Parish (Omagh), Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland

     

    Only one McKeon listed in the Griffiths Valuation for Drumragh Parish done in 1860.

    MCKEON

    John

    Tattyreagh Glebe

     

    Index to Griffith’s Valuation, Co Tyrone shows Robert McKeon six times in Longfield West which is a Civil Parish in the Barony of Omagh West.  It is also spelt Langfield West.

    There are 93 other McKeon names covering 24 other parishes in Co Tyrone.  So much for thinking I could isolate a location from his accuser.  The other parishes are: Aghaloo, Arboe, Ardstraw, Ballyclog, Bodney Lower & Upper, Camus, Cappagh, Carnteel, Clogher, Clogherny, Clonoe, Derryloran, Desertcreat, Donaghenry, Donaghmore, Drumragh, Kildress, Killeeshil, Killyman, Lissan, Pomeroy, Tullyniskan, Urney.

     

    https://www.johngrenham.com/browse/county_civil.php?county=Tyrone will give you a Civil Parish Map for Co Tyrone.  Longfield East & West are next to the parish of Drumragh. (Langfield)

    https://www.johngrenham.com/c_parish/c_parish_main.php?civilparishid=2350&county=Tyrone&civilparish=Drumragh

    This will take you to a site for Drumragh Civil Parish places mentioned in 1901 & 1911 Censuses.  Also a map of Co Tyrone showing its location.

    I think this is the only parish in Omagh which has records available but they are too late for Thomas.

    https://www.johngrenham.com/browse/counties/rcmaps/tyronerc.php#maps/

    Irish Ancestors: Tyrone Roman Catholic Records.

    Don’t presume that because they were Catholic they must have been baptised, married and buried only in a church of that faith.  Many married in the Church of Ireland and other churches.

     

    I recently discovered a Catholic marriage in New York which surprised me as my family descend from Irish Orangemen who took their beliefs to America.

    You are obviously further along in your research than I am as I am still hoping for help from a request I lodged ages ago.  I presume you have access to Tasmanian records but if you need help with these I live in Tassie.

    Kathy from Oz

    Saturday 30th Apr 2022, 05:18AM

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