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Hi,

I am trying to discover more about my Great Grandfather(x4), Richard Treacy, b. 20 April 1781 Iin Kilkenny. He married Anna Wilson of Castlecomber, who died of breast cancer in 1835 in Belmont.

Richard and Anna had a government appointment in Philedelphia for one year, 1816-1817. They lived in John Street. My Great Grandmother(x3), Sarah Anna Treacy was born there, 1 February 1817.

He is noted as her father, R. of Kilkenny, at her wedding to John Stephenson Henry, at Coolcullen Church,  6 September 1838.

From JSH's diary, we know that Richard and Anna had at least 4 other daughters back in Ireland, and at some stage they were living in Belmont, Kilkenny; Louisa Catherine. who married James Disney in 1839 (possibly died in Carlow 1906) ; Emma who married William Gordon in 1845 (son of Samuel Gordon of Coolcullen) They emigrated to Australia around 1849-1850 ; Harriet, who married Morgan O'Neille in 1849, and also emigrated to Australia after 1851. (sadly died aged 33 in 1856); and Lucy, b.abt 1827, who also emigrated to Australia (died 1882 aged 55). Sarah tragically died 21 July 1851, enroute to Australia, at age 34, leaving her husband with 7 small children. All of their burials were Methodist.

There was also one son, William, who was said in family memoirs to have possibly been a surveyor. He remained in Ireland.

I am confused, as the Treacy's seem to have been married in Coolcullen, yet said to live in Belmont. 

This ad was in many papers for Holloway's Pills. This one from Bathurst Advocate (NSW : 1848 - 1849): (courtesy of TROVE)

"here is no remedy known equal to Holloway's  Pills for the Cure of Asthma. — Mr. Richard Treacy,   of Belmont, Carlow, having derived so much benefit from the use of these Pills, wishes it to be made public for the  benefit of all persons troubled with Asthma, that he had  been suffering: from this distressing complaint for the last.  15 or 16 years, and although he had tried a great variety of remedies, yet none seemed to do him any good. He  then had recourse to Holloway's Pills, which invaluable  medicine in a short time afforded him wonderful relief, his  breathing has since become perfectly free and easy."

I would love to discover what Richard actually did, why he was in America, when he died, what happened to William,and if we still have Treacy family in Ireland. I have pieced together some of his 'family' from online, but am not confident I'm ontrack with the right Treacy family.

Hoping someone might be able to help fill in some more pieces.

Cheers

Kerrie

 

 

 

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Hi Kerrie,

Thank you for your message.

I have forwarded it onto one of our volunteers who hopefully may be able to advise or assist you.

Kind regards,

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Tracey Family

I am on holidays so I do not have access to all of my data but we may be luck. My knowledge of the Tracey clan comes via my wife's side. One of her descendants was an Elizabeth Tracey who died around 1864. I have been researching the Tracey clan trying to find where she fits in. I have some materials chief of which is a Tracey family history book from a wonderful Tracey descendant who lives outside of Boston.    She will be most interested in your materials.  Once I get a chance I will look to see what the paper resource has on dear William.

Part of the frustrating part of Irish research is the myriad on place names. Each layer of government and the clergy had their own terms. Casltecomer is a very large area. Coolcullen is a much smaller location as their was only a few Protestant churches. The Mothell church served a fairly small group. I have heard of Belmount which I beleive is a townland.

One of my main resources for land locations are people who either lived in the area in the past or who live there now. I have a few contacts.

I will follow up soon...

 

 

 

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Treacy's of Bellmount

Thank you Emma. Much appreciated.

Kind regards,

Kerrie

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Treacy's of Bellmount

Hello,

That will be wonderful. I'm also away from all my resources at the moment, as had to unexpectedly travel away yesterday! I will look forward to hearing from you.

Much appreciated,

Kerrie

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Treacys In Kilkenny-Carlow

I looked at my printed Treacy resource and I think we have a different one. This Richard was born about 1777 and settled in Canada (North Adjala in Simcoe Co.). He was Catholic. He married Bridget Hanley.

While searching I came across this reference:

Thomas Shirley , b. pre 1728, Bellmount, Coon East Kilkenny

I have a record of an email from a relative of this Thomas Shirley who grew up in the area:

"The Bellmount (or Belmont) is probably the place in Coon East where my family, the Shirleys, settled in 1760. There is another Bellmount in Kilkenny, way down near Waterford"

Likely Bellmount was what was called a townland. We would know it as a village. They were usually no larger than 10-12 families. There were thousands of them that came into and out of existence. My own version is a place called Ballysallah in Kilkenny . It no longer exists.

From Wikipedia:

Townland - Coan East

Acres - 1,720

County  - Kilkenny

Baronny - Fassadinin  Civil Parish - Dysart

Poor Law Union - Castlecomer

Coon was also spelled Coen. It was across the River Dinin from Coolcullen. If your Richard Treacy was married in the area likely it was at Mothell Church in Ossory Diocese. I checked out some records I have of births - marriages - deaths. There were Treacy's living there.

Mothell Burials:

NO.

NAME

 

ABODE

WHEN BURIED

AGE

MINISTER

115

 

Elizabeth Treacy

Coone

2 August 1921

76

 

172

 

Charles Robert Treacy

Coon East

23 September 1953

69

S.R.W. Nadden

Mothell Baptisms

 

 

 

 

Parents Names

Parents Names

                         

 

No.

When Baptized

When Born

Child’s Christian Names

Christian

Surname

Abode

Trade or Profession

23

 

Jan 25 1885

Oct 10 1884

Robert Charles

John & Elizabeth

Treacy

Coone

Farmer

These records come from pictures of the original parish register that a contact of mine took. She did it quickly and some copies were pretty blurry.

This from another close by town land:

Baptisms – Old Leiglin

Tracy

William

20

June

1799

son of William Tracy, and Anne, his wife

Tracy

Maria

13

March

1804

daughter of William Tracy, and Anne his wife, of the Parish of Wells

Tracy

Anne

22

Dec

1805

daughter of William Tracy, and Anne his wife, of the Parish of Wells

Treacy

James

10

June

1801

son of William Treacy, and Anne, his wife, of the Parish of Wells

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Old_Leighlin_Bapt_2.htm

from: MARRIAGE LICENCES FROM THE DIOCESE OF OSSORY 1739-1804
Presented by Raymond Refausse

Wm. Ransford of Rathglass in the Co of Carlow, Farmer, and Mary Treacy of the Parish of Comer (most likely Castlecomer), Spinster. Both Prots. - The Irish Genealogist, Vol 8, #2, p. 266

Wm. Treacy of Leighlin Bridge in the Co. of Carlow, Coal Merchant, and Ann Bradley of Coolbawn in the Parish of Comer, Spinster. - The Irish Genealogist, Vol 8, #2, p. 399

I found 32 Tracey baptisms from a place called Dunleckney the 1830’s in nearby Bagnelstown:

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Dunleckney_index.htm

Samuel Gordon

Emma Treacy who married William Gordon in 1845 (son of Samuel Gordon of Coolcullen)

MOTHELL FAMILIES Document - 1817

This is from a list created in 1817 of potential emigrants to Canada. It was used to get funds for middlemen who booked passage for settlers wanting to leave Ireland:

Coolcullen

GORDON, Samuel, Mary, John, Samuel,

This is the parents – Samuel and Mary and their 2 children in descending age – John and Samuel.

Also:

From: VIOLENCE, RENT, IMPROVEMENT AND DISTRESS ON THE FRANKFORT ESTATES IN KILKENNY DURING THE EIGHTEEN FORTIES by Desmond Norton

“At least one important tenant on Coolcullen, Samuel Gordon, was in serious difficulties in January 1849, when Stewart wrote to Kincaid: “Get rid of old Gordon or come to some settlement with him”. The Griffith Valuation of 1850 indicates that Gordon was then still a tenant to Frankfort, on 61 acres in Coolcullen.”

And later:

At the time of the cessation of private road works during the Summer of 1846, Rev Graves of Mothel Rectory had written to SK "on behalf of the tenants and labourers on Lord Frankfort's estate", requesting that those useful works be recommenced. On 5 October, Samuel Gordon, one of Frankfort's most important tenants, wrote to SK: “Public works can be had for Coolcullen ...if timely application be made by proper agents .... It is therefore hoped you will not disregard this important business, and if such grant be obtained, ... a continuation of the line of road made last summer by Mr Cathro ... would open a communication thro' some hundred acres now nearly barran for want of means of improvement” (firstly, access).

James Disney

There is a James listed in the 1876 Kilkenny Landowners:

48. James Disney, Reps. of, no address given, owned 73 acres.

Louisa Catherine Treacy

I found a birth record for her in Carlow. Here is the link. I love that these are linked to digital copies of the original document. It can be hard to isolate but make sure you key into the birthdate –19 April 1820

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/7e7e360004113

John Stephanson Henry

I found one in Dunleckney born in 1804:

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/a335970006753

Morgan O’Neill b. 1810

I found one in Dunleckney born in 1810:

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/df281a0006894

Notice the trend? Dunleckney was an older Protestant settlement. I did some basic looking to see if ther Treacy family clustered together. I found some of the earliest ones were in Tullow (also called Tullowcreen) and Old Leighlin. The oldest was 1708 in Tullow.

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/search.jsp?namefm=&namel=Treacy&exact=&name2fm=&name2l=&location=&dd=&mm=&yy=&diocese=CARLOW+(COI)&parish=&century=1700&decade=&sort=&pageSize=100&ddB=&mmB=&yyB=&ddM=&mmM=&yyM=&ddD=&mmD=&yyD=&locationB=&locationM=&locationD=&member0=&member1=&member2=&member3=&member4=&member5=&member6=&member7=&member8=&member9=&namef0=&namef1=&namef2=&namef3=&namef4=&namef5=&namef6=&namef7=&namef8=&namef9=&namel0=&namel1=&namel2=&namel3=&namel4=&namel5=&namel6=&namel7=&namel8=&namel9=&keyword=&submit=Search

Another greast resource is the Irish Deeds registery:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~registryofdeeds/by_name/name423.htm

They have loads of Treacy's but only one R. Tracey.

I hope this helps.

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