The man on the left is my grandfather. The man on the right is an older brother of my grandmother Eileen (Alineen). This must have been taken when my grandparents visited Ireland.
Thomas Egerton (born Eggenton) was born in Carrick, Dalystown, Mullingar, Co Westmeath on the 3rd February 1890.
He was the second eldest, his brother John being the eldest. His other siblings include (but not limited to) Julia Joseph Margaret Agnes Mary. We are not sure why the name changed and we are reaching out to anyone who think they may be related. We are based in Mullingar still, with other known relatives based in Carlow and possibly Cork (we think John Eggenton moved to Cork and one of his sister's moved to the UK).
His mother was Mary Garry from Collinstown.
He married a woman called Mary - maiden name unknown at this point.
He had 6 sons named William Kevin Joseph Thomas Sean and Patrick.
Thomas Egerton pictured here on the far right (his father William (Will) Eggenton is second from the left
|Date of Birth||3rd Feb 1890|
|Father (First Name/s and Surname)||Parents - William (Will) Eggenton & Mary Garry Carrick, Dalystown, Mullingar, Co. Westmeath, Ireland||VIEW SOURCE|
|Spouse (First Name/s and Maiden/Surname)||Thomas Egerton married Mary Gaffney. They had six sons Thomas, Kevin, Patrick, Joseph, William and Sean.||VIEW SOURCE|
|Names of Siblings||John Joseph Julia married Geoffrey McDermott Lelie/Anne/Annie married Pat Loran Margaret married James Leogue Agnes possibly moved to UK and married, married name unknown at this point||VIEW SOURCE|
|Names of Siblings||Allineen/Eileen/Ellen married Benjamin Thomas Carroll and lived in UK Bridget, possibly moved to UK and married, married name unknown at this point William married Mary McEnroe Mary (RIP aged 24) Catherine (RIP 3 days)||VIEW SOURCE|
AndyB61Sunday 10th June 2018, 06:22PM
Thank you so much for getting in touch!!! I've a million questions for you :)
Myself and my dad (Joe Egerton from Mullingar, grandson of Thomas Egerton in this photo) are organising a family reunion here in Ireland for May 2019. We are trying to trace all and any relatives of the siblings of Thomas Egerton/Eggenton. At the moment we are trying to ascertain where all the siblings moved to, who they married, and their children/grandchildren etc. We have Allineen (Eileen) down as possibly having married a man by the name of Carroll? Are we right or wrong in this?
If you are on facebook or have any children/grandchildren that may be on facebook please have them look up "Egerton/Eggenton Family Renunion" as i've put up what information and photographs I have on there. Alternatively i can be emailed privately at email@example.com.
It would be great if you could share some information and/or photos with us and possibly look in to arranging to attend our reunion next year with your family. I know my dad will be thrilled to hear we've made contact with someone other than those we already know of!
Again, its been super to hear from you and I look foward to sharing information with you soon.
Nadine Walsh (nee Egerton) :)
Nadine Egerton WalshSunday 10th June 2018, 07:10PM
Yes that's him on the left of the photo. Tom Carrol....That's why it must have been taken during one of their visits...(Benjamin Thomas Carrol)
AndyB61Sunday 10th June 2018, 07:27PM
Can you tell me where your grandparents lived? Date of Marriage? How many children they had and names... and names of their children??? I understand thats alot of information to gather and pass on so whenever you have time, it would be greatly appreciated! My dad seems to remember years ago (1970s) dropping a cousin of his (Ann Egerton, daughter of Joseph Egerton/Son of Thomas Egerton in the above pic) to a house in Patrick Street, Mullingar where he thinks a daughter of Allineen/Eileen lived (possibly married a Staunton man)???
Nadine Egerton WalshSunday 10th June 2018, 07:37PM
They lived in west London near heathrow airport. Had 2 daughters. Daphne and Eileen. Daphne my mother had me and my brother simon. Eileen had all girls. Gail, Lydia, Jennifer and Alison. Neither Daphne or Eileen lived in Ireland. I visited as a boy..very young......went to Kinegad too I think..and some other places....
AndyB61Sunday 10th June 2018, 07:51PM
Daphne married Gordon Bessford and Eileen married William (Bill) Baker
AndyB61Sunday 10th June 2018, 08:00PM
Great information!!! Can you give me the married names of your mother and aunt also? And maybe the married names of Eileen's daughters (if they married?)
Kinnegad is the neighbouring town to Mullingar, it was close to where Thomas Egerton lived in the latter end of his life in The Downs, Mullingar. Also not too far away from where your grandmother was born in Carrick, Dalystown, Mullingar.
Do you have any information on any of your grandmothers siblings? Possible family names, where they lived etc.
I know for sure that Thomas & Eileen's brother Joseph moved to Carlow, Ireland and his family still lives there and also use the name Egerton. We think their brother John moved to Cork but have no known connections or leads for his family. Two of their sisters, Julia (married McDermott) and Margaret (married Leogue) their families are still based in Mullingar. We also think another sister Agnes moved to the UK and possibly married Bohman/Bonham. We cannot account for the other siblings Lelie (maybe Leslie), Bridget, Mary and William. There were 12 siblings in total and I cannot account for 1 sibling at all. All this information I got on the National Archives website
There's a question, did your grandmother use the name Egerton or Eggenton? They were all born Eggenton but Thomas Egerton (my great grandfather) changed his name to Egerton c.1917 and we are not sure why. Thomas Egerton served with the Irish Republican Army and is listed in their archives as Egerton. His brother Joseph used the name Egerton also.
Nadine Egerton WalshSunday 10th June 2018, 08:18PM
My Mother thinks That photo looks like my grandfather did about 1934
AndyB61Sunday 10th June 2018, 08:34PM
Was your grandfather from the UK or Ireland? Or do you know how he and your grandmother crossed paths?
Nadine Egerton WalshSunday 10th June 2018, 08:37PM
Alineens siblings were
I think Julia and bridget went to the UK and alineen followed later and met Tom who she later married.
Names alter a lot...eggington, eginton also...alineen becomes Ellen...and later Eileen...everyone called her Eileen..
Because people taking details just wrote what they heard...
AndyB61Sunday 10th June 2018, 08:42PM
Thats what I think happened too, that the name just got lost in translation over the years! Would you happen to have a photograph of your grandparents you could email me?
Nadine Egerton WalshSunday 10th June 2018, 08:45PM
My grandfathers family the Carrolls originally come from Cork ...Fermoy possibly.
My grandmother goes to stay with her older sisters julia and bridget in the UK and meets Tom...
AndyB61Sunday 10th June 2018, 08:45PM
I'll try and find some photos...but I'm away from home base and mums archive at present :-)
AndyB61Sunday 10th June 2018, 08:51PM
Mary may have died young in mullingar during the time of spanish flu
AndyB61Sunday 10th June 2018, 09:01PM
Estimated Birth Year abt 1894
Date of Registration1918 - Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district Mullingar
FHL Film Number0101607
AndyB61Sunday 10th June 2018, 09:04PM
oh wow. Where did you get that information?
Nadine Egerton WalshSunday 10th June 2018, 09:05PM
Ancestry UK...I've started trying to trace family....
AndyB61Sunday 10th June 2018, 09:15PM
We are meeting with the Secretary of the Parish Church where they were all born on Wednesday to get access to baptisimal records, hopefully i might be able to unearth some marriage and death records also. I'll keep you posted on what i find
Thats no problem at all about the photos, whenever you have the time to email it, you can email it to firstname.lastname@example.org. We hoping to gather a photo of each of the siblings (and their spouses) for the reunion and be able to piece together type of family tree on a large board
Nadine Egerton WalshSunday 10th June 2018, 09:20PM
My name is Jasmin Leogue
I have been messaging with Andy/andrew on ancestry as our DNA matched us as third cousins. I don't know a whole lot about my family history but I'm beginning to look into it.
Margaret Egerton was my great grandmother (as far as I know Egerton was how it was spelled). She married James Leogue and they had either 10 or 11 children together. One of those children was my grandfather who was born in Mullingar, he later moved to the UK and worked digging tunnels on the railways. He settled in Sussex and married and had 10 children, one of those being my father. He settled and married my mother and had 5 leogue children. My oldest sister lives near Liverpool, and my other siblings live in Sussex still. I recently moved out to St.Louis, USA and i'm out here studying.
Let me know if you have any questions I might be able to help with!
jasminleogueMonday 11th June 2018, 10:43PM
Hi Jasmin, great to hear from you :)
My great grand father, Thomas Egerton would have been a brother of Margaret Egerton.
If you are on facebook please search Egerton/Eggenton Family Reunion, myself and my dad are hoping to hold a reunion party in Mullingar next year. I have some info (just to hand) on Margaret Egerton, if you want to email me at email@example.com I can forward them on to you. Also, if you are on facebook, can you tag/add all your egerton relatives to the reunion page... its really gathering momentum now!
If you could also pop in an email with the names of your aunts/uncles and grandaunts/granduncles (to the best of your knowledge, i know what its like to have a big family, there are 12 in my dads family!). My dad is in contact with Matthew Leogue (living in the original cottage in Carrick, Dalystown, Mullingar) where all of our great grandparents/grandparents were born! Imagine that... Matthew must be a grand uncle/uncle of your dads!
anywho... i'm retiring for the night... have been in front of this laptop for nearly 5 hours now chasing information, it was fruitful!
so feel free to drop me an email or post more info on there... either is good with me :)
I look forward to sharing info
Nadine Egerton WalshMonday 11th June 2018, 10:54PM