Three Donnelly brothers arrive in Greaghnadarragh, Bailieborough, County Cavan. Early 1800s.

1820
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John Donnelly and his brothers Peter and Brian came to the Townland of Greaghnadarragh two miles east of Bailieborough in the County of Cavan in the early 1800's. Through John's connections with the landlord Young (minors) they had acquired the lease for a total of 106 acres in four lots. John leased two lots, one of 30 acres and a second of 50 acres. The other two lots totalling 26 acres were leased between Peter and Brian. John was accompanied by his son Michael from his first marriage and Peter possibly with a son James from his first marriage. It is not known whether or not the brothers parents were with them.

All three brothers met and married after their arrival. John to Catherine Clarke, Peter to Catherine Reilly and Brian to Rose Carolan and between them raised numerous family members, some of whom emigrated but the majority remained and lived their entire lives in Greaghnadarragh. The last family member to do so that carried the Donnelly name died in the 1970's ending over a century and a half of the Brother's Donnelly by surname descendants being in the farming community. Descendants from daughters carrying different surnames still live in the area today.

I have attached a link of my story of the Donnelly brothers and some of their descendants in the hope that someone somewhere might recognise their ancestor, maybe enhance their knowledge of them and offer their comments. 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/19TmlpveP1qy_m16awEbs9Cg3Dg3uEUI8/view?usp=sharing

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  • Thank you for this story and your links. I do not know if my family connects with your Donnellys, but my great-great-grandfather, Peter Smith, was born in Cavan, 1821, and emigrated to Canada as a boy. His first-born son, Joel Parrish Smith, named his sons Joel Parrish, Francis William, Alva Dewey (after his mother's family), and Peter Donnelly Smith. This may lead nowhere, but I have wanted to learn more about Donnellys in Cavan, and this is a help. I have DNA tested at Ancestry, FamilyTreeDNA, 23andMe, MyHeritage, and uploaded to Gedmatch. 

    PattiKansas

    Saturday 15th September 2018, 01:21AM
  • Hello PattiKansas. I am glad that you found my story interesting. There were a few  Donnellys in Co Cavan at the same time, some of them were from neighbouring townlands and were cousins so it may be possible that there is a family connection between us. I have uploaded my ethnicity DNA to GEDmatch and GEDmatch Genesis which gives a more refined search. If you can let me know your GEDmatch number perhaps through the moderators via email then I will compare our results. I could compare it to another Donnelly cousin at the same time. Good luck in all your research. Chris.

    Chris Cooper

    Saturday 15th September 2018, 10:22AM
  • Thanks for your response, Chris. I'm sending a note to the moderators now... I, too, have both GEDmatch and GEDmatch Genesis. Fingers crossed!

    PattiKansas

    Saturday 15th September 2018, 01:41PM
  • OK. I will wait for an email from them. Chris

    Chris Cooper

    Saturday 15th September 2018, 06:39PM
  • I don't know if the moderators will get involved, so please let me know the Name that your GEDmatch Genesis is listed as on the matches and I will scroll down through them. I have tried looking for PattiKansas in the name column and the email column. Chris.

    Chris Cooper

    Monday 17th September 2018, 06:43AM
  • Thanks for following up. I’m Patricia Bender on GEDmatch, Patti Bender on GEDmatch Genesis. 

    PattiKansas

    Monday 17th September 2018, 07:10AM
  • Thanks. I will look for it but it would be good to have your number. Could do a one to one comparison then, takes just seconds as you know. Chris.

    Chris Cooper

    Monday 17th September 2018, 09:08AM
  • I wish that IrelandXO had a "messenger" feature, so we could pursue this off the public page. 

    I used the FIND command to search for "Cooper" amongst my One-to-Many matches on both Gedmatch and Genesis and didn't see your name in the results, so we are either unrelated, or our DNA doesn't preserve the connection. My sisters and I match different people, so maybe there will be luck with your Donnelly cousin: Genesis BQ4335601  

    Knowing full well that present surnames may have nothing to do with ancestry, I searched for some common Cavan surnames among my results--Brady, Lynch, Reilly, McCabe--and had four to six of each. Then I put in "Smith," my great-great-grandfather's name--80 results. Hence, my problem and the reason I hope for DNA to crack the case. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    PattiKansas

    Monday 17th September 2018, 03:56PM
  • , Hi PattiKansas. Thanks for getting in touch through the moderators, I agree a messenger addition would be very useful on this excellent website. Unfortunately there was not a DNA match for my cousin either. However, if you refer back to my story my cousin is well documented in it, ie he is mentioned in the forward for the DNA ethnicity test and his book The Eyes That Shone mentioned at the end of my story is contactable through his website " donnellycanada" . I can tell you that his maternal grandmother was Mary Smith who died in 1841 and reportedly came from the townland of Rakeevan just north of Greaghnadarragh and Ballinamona in the parish of Bailieborough. If you google Moybologue historic society and click on old Moybologue graveyard you will see a complete photographed list of every headstone and Mary Smith is one of them amongst numerous Smiths. It might well be the case that although you are not blood related to him the connection you have might be through marriages. The Griffiths Valuation also gives a Margaret Smith as tenant on a farm in Rakeevan, the year would have been 1854 and she may have been the mother or aunt of my cousin. Let me know if you have any luck. Chris.

     

    Chris Cooper

    Monday 17th September 2018, 05:32PM
  • Sorry Patti, you have probably let this go now but just to edit my last post to you Mary Smith who died in 1841 was my cousins great grandmother. His grandmother died in 1941 aged 90 and so was born in 1831, she was also christened Mary Smith which means her mother probably died quite young. Mary Smith junior married into the Tully family and one of her daughters married James Donnelly my cousins father. Margaret Smith from Rakeevan listed in the GV in 1854 could have been related or connected through marriages. Chris.

    Chris Cooper

    Tuesday 18th September 2018, 08:37AM
  • Forget my last post , I pressed the wrong button to post it before reviewing it. I think the descendants of the two Mary Smiths may be wrong in assuming they were the same family. I took the details from the two headstones and if Mary Smith junior was 90 when she died in 1941 she would have been born in 1851. This was either recorded on the headstone plate with her age being wrong ( not unusual she could have been over 100 ) or the Mary Smith on a separate headstone who died in 1841 or 1842 was not her mother. I will leave it with you now. All the best Chris.

    Chris Cooper

    Tuesday 18th September 2018, 09:16AM

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