Acheson family - late 1700's to early 1800's - Urney/Strabane area

Acheson is a common enough name in Co. Tyrone. Can you give us a bit more information please? What were the names of the ancestors who lived in Ireland? When were they born, what denomination and what were their occupations in Ireland? When did they leave?

Hi there, This was my first post, and I can't see where the info I entered went!  Thanks for responding..

Here's what I have (they are Presbyterian) that I know:

Samuel b 1830, married Mary Jane Todd in 1853 (July 1 1853 SAMUEL ATCHESON 23 years bachelor labourer Kinkitt. Father: SAMUEL ATCHESON farmer & MARY JANE TODD 22 years spinster Ardstraw. Father: JOHN TODD farmer Witnesses: JAMES LYNCH & ROBERT FAREN) he emigrated to Australia and died there (Death Victoria Australia 1924 ATCHESON.-Samuel, the beloved hus- band of the late Mary Jane Atcheson, at Portland Public Hospital, on July 28th, 1924. Aged 99 years. A colon- ist of 69 years.) 

Frances Acheson b 1829 Kinkit, father Samuel (married Edward White in 1849)  I don't know what happed to her after that.

Charles Acheson, b Aug 23 1821 near Strabane, father Samuel Acheson 

Charles married Frances Park June 17, 1843 - Ardstraw - Rev Matthew Clarke (her father was William Park, Glenglush - who I'm also researching on a separate parish)

Charles and Fanny emigrated to Canada with their daughter Mary on the Barque Campbell in 1849, also went by Atcheson and Atchison.    These 2 are my great grandparents. After they get to Canada, I have a lot of info. 

I'm looking for info on his dad Samuel, who his wife was who his parents were etc. and if there were other children. I suspect that there was another child named Robert which I don't have any proof of, that married Jane McLaughlin.  I have a dna match to the gggrandson of these 2, and suspect that this is the connection.

So, any info prior to these events is what I'm looking for.  I have a lot of "unattached" acheson's in my tree hoping to bring them all together.  

Any help would be very much appreciated!  I'm travelling to Ireland in August and plan to visit Ardstraw and surrounding areas, and hope to find some interesting info prior to that trip.

Bonnie

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bonniej,

I looked in Griffiths Valuation for 1858. In Kinkit there was Samuel Acheson on plot 2. That was a 31 acre farm. He sublet a labourer’s cottage on that farm to Robert Acheson. Presumably a relative.

The Kinkit farm today is on the Fyfin Rd. It should be easy enough to locate. You can use the Griffiths maps to see its location.

http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=nameSearch

The Valuation Revision records show the farm remaining in Samuel’s name till 1876 when it changes to Thomas Acheson (suggesting Samuel died around that year). Thomas remains occupant till 1909 when the name changes to Thomas Keys. Robert remains as occupant of the farm cottage right up to 1923. However he doesn’t appear in the censuses so it looks to me as though the property just remained in his name long after his death (which was probably in 1883). Likewise I can’t see a Thomas Acheson in the census nor in the death records either.

Samuel Atcheson senior appears to have died on 19.7.1875 aged 88. That death isn’t on-line free yet. If you want to see it you would need to pay to view. You can view the original certificates on-line on the GRONI website, using the “search registrations” option:

https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk

You will need to open an account and buy some credits. It costs £2.50 (sterling) to a view a certificate.

Here’s the only Acheson family in the townland in family in 1901:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Altaclady/Kinkit/1750939/

1911:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Attaclady/Kinkit/847399/

Looking at the birth of Isabella on 10.1.1886 in Kinkit, her father was Samuel Acheson, shoemaker, and the mother was Sarah Anne Laughlin.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02614/1965231.pdf

Samuel died 12.12.1890 at Kinkit aged 48.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1890/06089/4737504.pdf

Various other children to that marriage: Jane 22.4.1875; Jane 31.8.1876; Robert 8.11.1878; Margaret 14.1.1881; Susan 28.8.1883; Mary 1.10.1889 & Robert 18.10.1889.

Parents married 19.8.1873.  Samuel’s father was Robert Atchison, labourer. Both couples came from Kinkit.

I also noted an Ellen Acheson who married Samuel Loughlin  on 30.1.1873. Her father was Robert Acheson. Both families lived in Kinkit. So two of Robert’s children married Loughlins.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1873/11261/8130464.pdf

Death of Robert Atcheson at Kinkit on 3.3.1883 aged 70. Widower. Informant was his son John James.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1883/06375/4829666.pdf

Another Robert Atcheson of Kinkit died there 23.11.1900 aged 22. Bachelor informant was Sarah A Acheson. Not quite sure who this Robert is as Sarah Anne’s Robert was only 11 then.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1900/05745/4622356.pdf

The Acheson family were Church of Ireland. Kinkit is in Urney parish. Urney Church of Ireland has baptism, marriage and burial records from 1813 onwards. You could search them for records of your family’s baptisms etc. There’s a copy in PRONI in Belfast which you can consult there free.

Hi Elwyn, Whew this is a lot to take in !  First - thanks so much for helping me out!  Very much appreciated.  

I'll try to address each issue to keep myself straight!

re:  I looked in Griffiths Valuation for 1858. In Kinkit there was Samuel Acheson on plot 2. That was a 31 acre farm. He sublet a labourer’s cottage on that farm to Robert Acheson. Presumably a relative.  I guess I'm stuck since I don't have enough info about Samuel he is the right one on that farm?  I'm not sure of who Thomas Acheson is that he left the farm to?  

I have a death of Samuel Acheson  :  birth year 1787, death 1875 in Strabane - I assume this is the same Samuel.  - but is he my Samuel? 

 

I have  a Thomas Atcheson buried in Ardstraw in 1883, who is buried with a Robert Atchison, but their parents are Robert and Catherine from Glenglush.   Thomas and Robert's sister was buried with them too, and her husband was an unknown Keys - kids are james and catherine.  And they had a brother named Samuel. 

  

"Mors Janua Vitie Est Robert ATCHISON Esqr of Glenglush Died on the 21st March 1833 aged 55 His afflicted Widow and children Have erected this monument to Commemorate their deep sorrow for the irreparable loss of a most Justly beloved husband, father and friend also Catherine his wife aged 53 Robert eldest son aged 44 And James M.D.R.N. second son aged 59 Also James Cunningham Atchison KEYS Died 19th September 1866 aged 16 years Thomas Atchison Died 27th November 1883 aged 72 years Ann Keys Died 21st May 1891 aged 68 years Catherine Jane MATHEWS Died February 27th 1893 aged 37 years"

 

This is why I haven't added this as "confirmed" info yet.     Samuel is obviously a family name, so that's where I get too many options!

I would love to find out my Samuel's wife's name and proof of the birth of their kids! and which kids were "really" theirs.  

 

What I have in my tree as "confirmed" is kids  Charles b 1821, and Frances b 1829 - i say confirmed but that's not really true.  They got married by the same Reverend from  the 1st Ardstraw Presbyterian Church.  What I have as a "maybe" is Samuel that married Mary Jane Todd, and Robert who was the father of Ellen Loughlin (dna match said that Robert's father was Samuel, but I have not proof whatsoever on that one).

 

 

re - The Kinkit farm today is on the Fyfin Rd. It should be easy enough to locate. You can use the Griffiths maps to see its location.  - I did check this out before as well -  the other inlaws are named  Park and their land is in Glenglush - basically on the other side of the street.  I plan on driving through there in August when I visit.   In any case, the link you sent was very interesting - I haven't see it this way before.

 

The newer records I believe are attached to my dna match and are much easier to work with.  I have searched PRONI for items that I can look up when I'm there, but I have found only one reference so far.  "Robert AchesonGlenglushT/1029 p.19Pre-1858 Wills and Admons" - so as you can see I'm trying every option to get a bit more solid info.

I had a class with the Ulster directors in Salt Lake City last week, learning how to research, and I think that basically I'm stuck with finding anything more online. - I'm hoping for someone that knows something that isn't online yet!  

 

I will review all of the info you sent in more detail later, I just wanted to let you know I did receive the email update, and that it is very interesting info.  And - Thanks again!

Bonnie

 

 

 

 

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Look at this newspaper article i found!

 

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Hi Elwyn,

I'm plowing through all of the details you posted, and I have hit a snag regarding Samuel Atchison and Sarah Ann Loughlin - the details that you provided are:

"Various other children to that marriage: Jane 22.4.1875; Jane 31.8.1876; Robert 8.11.1878; Margaret 14.1.1881; Susan 28.8.1883; Mary 1.10.1889 & Robert 18.10.1889.

Parents married 19.8.1873.  Samuel’s father was Robert Atchison, labourer. Both couples came from Kinkit."

But, I have them with Jane b 1867 on the 1911 census (married to John Stervenson), and Mary and Isabella are living with them.  Where did you find this other info ?   I think I'm misreading something here?

I have attached a pic of the tree that I have so far

Bonnie

My last post for today on this one - I promise!  

I'm confused about the connections as you say that the Acheson family is Church of Ireland - Urney.  My 2 that I have confirmed as mine (Charles and Fanny, kids of Samuel) were both married in the Ardstraw Presbyterian Church by Rev Matthew Clarke.    Samuel, who I think MIGHT be a brother was married in Urney Church.   Does that make sense?  Would a family convert over the time period of approx 1840 - 1853? 

By the way, there are a bunch of  Atchesons in Castlederg too. 

I have all of them added in my tree, I just can't seem to tie them all together. 

I wish I could find info on Samuel the father (farmer)  and who his wife was. The only way I can seem to figure this out (I think) is by finding the actual birth records of Charles b 1821, Frances b 1829 and Samuel b 1830 - All born in Kinkit. I can't find these records on PRONI or anywhere else.  

Bonnie

Bonniej,

A few thoughts and comments:

Re the pre 1858 will, all the original pre 1858 wills were destroyed in the Public Record Office in Dublin when it was burned in the 1922 civil war. However some duplicates exist and some were also transcribed for various reasons. Your T/1029 will be a transcript (the prefix T means a transcript) and the document will be easy enough to obtain in PRONI. The staff there will show you how to order it up. It’s free to view.

Take photo id when going to PRONI to get your readers card. (Just takes 2 minutes).

You ask whether the Samuel Acheson in Kinkit is your family. The short answer is I can’t say that with 100% certainty. However in Griffiths there were just 11 houses in the townland. Samuel Acheson was the sole Acheson. So if you know your family lived in Kinkit, then it’s pretty likely that he’s your ancestor. (In the 1901 census there were 8 houses in the townland with a total of 44 people. 1 Atchison family. So there aren’t dozens of families to choose from).

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Altaclady/Kinkit/

I don’t know who the Thomas Acheson was either. However you may be able to work that out if you go through the parish baptism, marriage & burial records in PRONI.

Re the Samuel Acheson death in 1875 which you are undertain about, you really need to pay to view the certificate to find if it’s your family or not. Otherwise you are just guessing. If he died in Kinkit then he’s probably yours. And you may get some other family information from the certificate eg if his wife was still alive etc. Death records for 1875 are not on-line free yet. So if you want to see it, you’ll need to pay on the GRONI site. (I gave the details in my previous post).

Glenglush is a separate townland to Kinkit and since there were Achesons there in Griffiths, I’d assume they were separate families (though they could well be related to the Kinkit ones since it’s very nearby).  Griffiths has William Acheson farming on plot 2a and James on 3a. I note that James was MDRN. That means he had been a doctor in the Royal Navy. As is confirmed by the obituary you posted.  So there should be a military record for him in the National Archives in Kew.

The Thomas Achison who died on 27.11.1883 was a bachelor. The informant was his nephew Thomas Keys.

Ann Keys who died on 21.5.1891 died in Lifford, Co Donegal. She was married and the informant was Sarah Ann Keys, her daughter. This might be her in 1901:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Castlefinn/Castlefin/1195309/

Ann Atcheson’s marriage to Robert Riddle Keys was registered in Strabane in 1848.

9 occupied houses in Glenglush in 1901. No Achesons. 1 Keys.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Listymore/Gleng…

Some probate abstracts from the PRONI wills site.

Keys Thomas of Glenglush county Tyrone farmer died 10 July 1924 Administration Londonderry 30 September to Margaret Keys widow. Effects £2492 19s. 9d.

Keys Margaret of Glenglush county Tyrone widow died 15 August 1941 Probate Londonderry 25 September to John Robert Keys farmer. Effects £752 3s. 11d.

Keys, John Robert of Glenglush Fyfin county Tyrone farmer died 15 July 1961 Probate Londonderry 22 September to Thomas Kinloch farmer. Effects £11240 5s. 1d.

Catherine Jane Keys (daughter of Robert of Glenglush) married James Snodgrass Mathews on 17.8.1873 at Glengush Cottage. (Presbyterians often married at home or at the Manse, rather than in church.).

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1874/11253/8127011.pdf

Catherine Mathews died at Ballybotemple in Co Donegal. She was aged 42 according to her death cert. (So one of the ages given on her gravestone and her death certificate is wrong. Not unusual in those days. People mostly just guessed ages).

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_retu…

James and family in 1901:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Altnapaste/Ballybobaneen/1197272/

I noted this probate abstract for someone who died in New Zealand but had assets in Northern Ireland. The name suggests he must be related to James Mathews and Catherine Acheson.

Mathews Samuel James Snodgrass of Temuka Canterbury New Zealand retired farmer died 20 June 1938 at Temuka Probate Timaru 20 December 1938 to Esther Rebecca Mathews widow. Effects in Northern Ireland £450. Re-sealed Belfast 30 June.

The will itself is in PRONI.

Regarding the choice of church where a couple married, tradition was to marry in the bride’s church, after which she’d normally attend her husbands. So all you can usually infer from where a marriage took place is that it was the bride’s family church. You can’t assume it was also the husband’s. (It might have been, but not necessarily). These families appear to be a mix of Church of Ireland and Presbyterians. So, if for example the bride was Church of Ireland and the husband Presbyterian, they will usually marry in one and then baptise their children in the other.

I don’t understand your query about Jane, Mary & Isabella in the 1911 census. Can you explain what it is you don’t understand?

You asked where I found the other children to the Samuel Acheson & Sarah Ann Laughlin marriage. The answer is the GRONI website. It allows you to search for births using both father’s surname and mother’s maiden or previous name. So when you know when a couple married you just search the next 20 years or so for children whose parents have the 2 relevant surnames.

You say that you can’t find “these records on PRONI or anywhere else”. They are not on-line. You have to go to PRONI in person to look them up. They are mostyl on microfilm. Some are the paper originals. I think sometimes folk assume all church records are on-line somewhere nowadays. They are not. There are vast quantities of Irish records that are still only accessible only by going into PRONI and other repositories in person with your notebook and camera. The Church of Ireland and Presbyterian records around Urney and adjacent parishes are in that category.

You say you want to find Samuel’s wife’s name. I'd suggets starting by looking at his death certificate. Perhaps she registered his death? If he was a widower, then you know to look for her death before that date.  You may also get it from the baptism records but you’ll need to go to PRONI to look them up. Or if you don’t want to go to PRONI yourself, there are researchers who’ll do it for you. Researchers in the PRONI area: http://sgni.net

Let me know if you have any questions.

 

 

Thanks again for all of this info.

I wrote notes on almost everything and they disappeared!

So to remember what I said - I ordered the death cert but it's not available to view so it's 30 pounds!  anyway, that will help a lot - i hope!

re:"Various other children to that marriage:  Robert 8.11.1878; Margaret 14.1.1881;  & Robert 18.10.1889." which i don't have a record of - i'll go look again, and 

You have this attached to Sarah Ann Loughlin and Samuel Atchison, however, I  have an extra:

 Isabella Acheson b1886 (m watson), 

She is on the 1911 census with her sister Jane Stevenson 

I still can't locate the marriage doc for sam and sarah ann.  It says that you can purchase a photocopy etc.  

I'm going to PRONI in August, but I still only have 1 record that says the paper is there.  The rest are all online or don't exist.

I'm going to save this now so I don't lose it again!

 

 

 

 

BonnieJ,

The death certificate is available to view for £2.50 on the GRONI site. You need to use the search certificates section, not the order a certificate section. Click on “full” to view the certificate. Exact date of death was 19th July 1875 and the spelling is Atcheson.

Here’s a link to the Samuel Atchison & Sarah Ann Loughlin marriage in 1873. (It's incorrectly indexed as Archibald rather than Atchison. I have reported the error to the website).

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1873/11278/8137130.pdf

I found Isabella Atchison’s birth on 10.1.1886 at Kinkit:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…

Many thanks - again!  I did order the actual certificate, so I'll wait until it arrives by post.  Next time i'll follow your instructions.  Hopefully it pulls this all together, at this stage I can't figure out how they are all connected.  There are so many Roberts and Samuels.  I do have some dotted lines and a dna match that will support what I find on the death cert (she says hopefully!)

Now I just need a little patience.  Will keep you posted

Bonnie

Hi Ellwyn,

Just wanted your opinion. - you mentioned above the death of Samuel Atchison in 1875

("Samuel Atcheson senior appears to have died on 19.7.1875 aged 88. That death isn’t on-line free yet. If you want to see it you would need to pay to view. You can view the original certificates on-line on the GRONI website, using the “search registrations” option:

https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk"

So, I logged into geni - set up an account, looked up the record, paid 5 pound priority search, 7 pound regular search, and another 10 pound for mailing of the document.  I waited for a month (that's what they said on the email), only to find that they had not mailed it.  They said that they did not find that document but another in Banbridge in 1888, but they charged me in full for the whole thing.  They said that I either have to accept the banbridge document, or get a partial refund - still paying the 12 pounds for the search.    

Does this seem right to you?  This is my first contact with Geni, and it seems very unfair that they would have a document indexed and available for purchase, charge you in full, and then say they can't find it.  

Has this happened to you before?  I guess I will never find my person's death info ?

Bonnie

 

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Bonniej,

I am sorry you are having trouble with the GRONI site. You seem to have spent a lot of money that you probably didn’t need to spend. You really only needed to pay £2.50 to view that 1875 death certificate. You didn’t need to pay GRONI to search for it (because we already know it’s there), nor order a copy of the certificate nor pay for any priority service. I don’t know why GRONI can’t find it, because I certainly can. My guidance in my post of 25th March explained that the certificate is viewable on-line for £2.50. You just needed to open an account and put in the details I gave you about the name, year and location.

To speed things along for you, I looked the certificate up myself. There’s a copy attached. It is your Samuel Atcheson. He died in Kinkit; he was a widower, a farmer and cause of death was old age. The informant was Susan Atchison of the same townland.

So now you know that Samuel’s wife died some time before July 1875. You could search all the pre 1875 female deaths in Strabane registration area of women of roughly the relevant age to see if any are her but if she died before 1864, she’ll be harder to trace because deaths weren’t recorded before that year. But you may get her name from PRONI's church records.

Hi Elwyn,

Thanks so much for that!  I'm not sure what happened at groni either, they seem to be a little lost on this one.  Anyway, now my new mission - find that Susan Atcheson, I have found a few (you have taught me a lot!) on the census etc.  so I just need some time to work out the connection.  I definately owe you !  We will be in county Antrim going from Belfast to Derry in August.  Any chance you could join us for lunch ?  I think we will be at Bushmills around that time, but not sure...;

Bonnie

 

 

Bonnie,

I don’t know who the Susan Atchison is either. She might be his daughter or perhaps a daughter in law. You can check the baptism records in PRONI and that should tell you whether he had a daughter of that name. The only one I can find is Susan born at Kinkit on 28.8.1883 to Samuel Atchison and Sarah Ann Laughlin, but obviously that ‘s a different generation.

What dates are you thinking about in August. I am here part of the month but will be away 5th to 7th and 23rd onwards. I could certainly meet you in Bushmills if you would like that.

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Rats!  We are not arriving until Aug 23 - will be in your area on the 28th.  Really sorry we won't be able to meet up!

by the way, I also have a different susan whose parents are Robert and Jane (Mclaughlin) b 1844 - Mervyn Catterson's atcheson family (who is a dna match to me) so it's starting to come together.   Have to work a bit harder on his connection to find the link.  He says that Robert is actually a son of my samuel on the death cert - but I haven't found any proof of that yet - however it does seem likely.  If it was that susan, it would have been his granddaughter...  I attached a pic of the 1851 census 

Bonnie

 

 

 

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Hi Ellwyn,

I hope all is well with you... I have seen you on the county tyrone site email list a few times... I"m wondering if you can straighten me out on this one - I'm confused about these 2 diferent birth records, I think they should be the same record, but the years and birth dates are out of sync?  Have you ever seen this before?

I have attached two files, both have the same father and mother, and the child is named the same but different years and dates... is the child the same person?

Bonnie

 

 

Bonniej,

The usual explanation is that there were 2 children of the same name. The first one died and so they used the same name again for the next one. Have you looked for a death 1868 -1878? To us today, reusing a dead child's forename might seem perhaps disrespectful but in the 1800s they saw it rather differently. It was important to keep a traditional fmaily name alive. Literally.

HI Elwyn, sorry for the delay in response, I didn't get anything that said you updated the post... 

Anyway, the thing that's weird on this one is that they are 30 years apart, does that seem reasonable?  I've seen a lot of renaming after death, but it is usually the same time frame...

Seems very odd to me..

I'll check for deaths as you suggested..

bonnie

Bonnie,

The births are 10 years apart, not 30. 1868 & 1878.

To help a little, I checked the deaths and there is a likely one for Samuel Atcheson on 27.4.1876, aged 6,  registered in Strabane. That fits pretty well perfectly with the next male child being given the name Samuel in 1878.

A death in 1876 is not on-line free yet but you can view it on the GRONI site for £2.50. You might want to do that to confirm that my explanation of 2 births with the same name is correct.

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I tried to look in GRONI and I have nothing but trouble with that site!  I can see a list of 3 items for Acheson - births, deaths, and marriages.  however, I can't see anything else but the list of three items.  I get very frustrated with this site!

I attached the 2 screenshots from what I see on there, do you have a url you can put in here that I can use to get to the link that you are using?  ps - I'm logged into the site when these screenshots are taken..

 

Bonnie,

I can't give you a link to the death entry.

I am not sure why you are having so much difficulty with the GRONI site. Log in. The go to "search deaths". Enter the name and year and Strabane, and this should be the only match that comes up. Then click on view and for 5 credits (£2.50) it will show you the death certificate.

I figured it out, I was doing the search on the main screen and it wasn't giving me any info about why it wasn't working.  I went directly to the deaths as you suggested and it finally displayed the reason - you can't see the list if you do not have at least one credit and I don't have any... So!  I'll need to buy some. I thought I would let you know in case you have others that run into this weird problem.    Thanks again for your help.  

 You have insufficient credits remaining, please purchase more credits. 
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I am trying to discover who my great grandmother was we figure she was an Acheson as my Grandmother was christened Margaret Anne Acheson Finney. We are guessing she was from Tyrone possibly Dungannon area. Our difficulty is I don't know her Christian name however we figure Acheson and Shaw are strong family links for her as my uncle was christened William Acheson and my father was Alexander Shaw. We think the family either owned or were connected with poultry farming my grandmother's mother married an Alec Finney I am guessing as Alex seems to hold strong familial links. Has anyone an Acheson married to a Finney in the family tree out yhere

This appears to be them..?

Name:Margaret Ann FinneyGender:FemaleBirth Date:11 Nov 1877Birth Place:Antrim, IrelandFather:James FinneyMother:Margaret Ann Finney Acheson

Sounds possible

Hello Bonnie,

In response to your 16th May 2019 post. I can confirm that Thomas (b. 1843?; m. Eliza Bruce) did indeed have two sons named Samuel.

As I understand it, he may also have had two sons named Thomas.

Thomas' son Robert is my great-great grandfather. I have been posting my family info to Wikitree. 

Any information you could provide with respect to Thomas' parents would be much appreciated.

Further to my comment above. Thomas Atchison and Eliza Bruce's marriage certificate (m. Nov 4, 1863) lists Samuel Atchison, farmer, as Thomas' father. Robert Keys was a witness to their marriage.