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My 4G-Aunt, Eleanor (Ellen) Nash, born @1800, Guysborough, Nova Scotia, married a man named John Devereux (alt. Devereaux, Deveraux).  They have many descendants with family trees on ancestry.com, some of which say that John came from County Wexford, but I have not found any documentation that verifies that origin.  Some of the trees include a reference to the 1799 trial of a John Devereux for participating in the Wexford Uprising of 1798, and posit that the John who was tried could be "our" John's father.  I read the trial records at Cobbett's Complete Collection of State Trials P644; the John Deverux on trial was born sometime around 1775-80, and after conviction was sentenced to "translation for life."  Realizing that there were lots of Devereux family members in Wexford, and it could be coincidence -- where would "translation" have been to in 1799?  Were they sending people to Nova Scotia?  The Nash family that John married into were re-settled Loyalists who had sided with the British during the American Revolution; the British had been eager to populate Nova Scotia in 1783-84, right after the Revolution, but I am having trouble finding information about Irish immigrants who came circa 1800 (nor can I figure out why they would have sent people involved in the Risings to Nova Scotia, where they were trying to place Loyalists.  

"Our" John could have been born as early as 1775, but more likely he was 20 years younger.  We know that his father was also named John, but that is all I have.  

Any words of wisdom?  Also -- the name Devereux/Deveraux -- is it common in Ireland?  I would have thought it was Acadian French, but the family is listed as Irish in the Canadian records.  Thank you in advance to the wonderful people of Ireland Reaching Out.  Anne

Anne Tierney Goldstein

Friday 24th May 2019, 06:01PM

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  • Hello Anne,

    It looks like the word “translation,” in “translation for life” is spelled incorrectly. It is likely “transportation for life.” By 1798 the British government no longer transported prisoners to America, and I haven’t heard of any transportation schemes from England or Ireland to Nova Scotia. Most likely John Devereaux was sent to Australia, or perhaps to Van Diemen's Land, which was later named Tasmania. For more information about transportation to Australia and Van Diemen's Land (Tasmania), go to the following Wikipedia articles:

    https://is.gd/w69tAv

    https://is.gd/qOtimm

    Concerning John Devereaux, you would really need to know the first and maiden names of his mother to see if there is a baptism record for him in County Wexford. You would also have to know if the family in Ireland had been Catholic or Protestant. His parish of baptism would also be a help as well. If his family belonged to the Church of Ireland, and if a baptism record for him exists, the maiden name of his mother may not be recorded. Traditionally, Church of England and Church of Ireland baptism records do not record the maiden name of the mother, though there are exceptions to that in some Anglican baptism records.

    But, as you’re not quite sure if John was from Wexford or not, any further research with the little information you have about his origins in Ireland may be a time consuming project, and may come to naught for the effort you put into the research.

    Best of luck with your continued research Anne,

    Dave Boylan

    davepat

    Friday 24th May 2019, 08:16PM
  • Thank you all.  You are wonderful!

     

    Anne Tierney Goldstein

    Tuesday 28th May 2019, 03:40AM
  • Hello, i too have been been studying the Devereux families from Ireland. My mother had a brief fling with a gentleman named John Devereux in 1969, then i was concieved . Apparently he was stationed in the Johnstone terrace barracks , Edinburgh , Scotland. I cannot find any information on this subject therefore i took an Ancestry test & although i have  Devereux matches , it is a very complex case because there are quite a lot of these families floating around. i wonder what his position in the military was & my older siblings remember calling him by the name of big John. i suppose i have a lot of work to do .

    GillyG

    Friday 28th May 2021, 08:52PM
  • hello Anne,

    I am a descendant of the John Devereux who was convicted for treason following his involvement in the uprising. He was indeed 'transported for life' to the penal colony of New South Wales (Australia). He was a Catholic from the church parish of Ramsgrange; he had lived in the townland of Shelbaggan with his parents and sisters.. He served his sentence and was given a land grant in Tasmania where he married and raised a family of 8 children. The proviso of "for life" meant he was never to return to Ireland. We believe he died around 1833, although there is no documented record to prove the date. His wife re-married, so it seems pretty conclusive. There are some people with trees on Ancestry.com who think he left Tasmania and went to USA. I don't believe he is the John Devereux who married your 4xgreat aunt. 

    I maybe giving you false hope here, but he did have a son also called John. I have not done any research on the son, so don't know where he lived, or if he emigrated. If you are a descendant of the Nova Scotia John Devereux, we could do a DNA comparison. 

    (about the name, yes there are many Devereux in Wexford, they originally came from France ce4nturies ago.)

    Ali O'Ruairc

    Ali J

    Saturday 17th Sep 2022, 08:17AM

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