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Hi Everybody! 

Hope you are all having a good morning (well it's morning here in Washington State) 

I'm writing you to see if you are able to help me find anything regarding my 2x great-grandmother who was possible born in County Cork around 1869. 

 

I will be visitng Ireland March 19-March 30 and would love to see if there is anymore information out there, as I have exhausted all my online possiblities, that I know of, and have been reaching out to message boards and other online forums. 

 

Her name was Margaret Sullivan, and she was possible born around 1869, but I have another possible birthdate of June 24, 1868, which in mentioned in a family bible, however, it doesn't go any farther. However, on her headstone it says 1869.

 

Ancestry DNA has pinpointed the general area of where my Irish ancestors are from, which is the Cork Headlands. I possibly found something in 1869/1868 in Bantry, but the name says Michael, then there was a Margaret Sullivan born in the 1850s, but I know through my other documents that it's not her.  

 

I  do know that her father's name was Michael Sullivan and her mother's name was Margaret Davey (or Daley, it's been recorded as both). I tried finding a marriage record but was unable to locate anything online, or any other birth records regarding these two names, but was unsuccessful. 

 

There is also a story, where her Mom, Margaret Davey (Daley) died when she was 2 years old, possibly during child birth where she gave birth to a boy. Then her dad sent her to the U.S. to be with her sisters, while the younger brother stayed behind. It's also said that the brother, possible died from drinking too cold of water in a hot mine, and the dad died shortly afterward. (This is all within family story hand me downs). 

 

On her husband's US Naturlization records it mentions that Margaret was born in County Cork, and with Ancestry, giving me that specific area of County Cork, I was hoping something can come up, especially now that we're visitng the area at the end of March! With the goverment shutdown here in the States, I am unable to go to the local office of the US National Archives to do in person searching for any documentation. 

 

If you have any other online recommendations, that I possibly don't know about that would be of great help also, and maybe something will pop up in the County Cork Archives! 

 

Thank You for all your help, and I look forward to hearing from you! 

 

ayoung0316

Monday 21st Jan 2019, 06:38PM

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  • A. Young:

    Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

    The free site www.irishgenealogy.ie  has church records for the Diocese of Cork and Ross. I located two possible baptismal records. They are earlier than your 1868 but many times immigrants made themselves younger or older in their new country to fit their circumstances. I also searched the subscription site Roots Ireland which also has records for RC parishes in the Diocese of Cloyne (basically north and east Cork) but did not find any possibly records.  Do you have any names for the older siblings? Maybe we can look for their baptismal records in these two parishes. All of the searching is complicated because Sullivan is so prominent in Cork (and Kerry).

    Let me know if you have questions.

    Roger McDonnell

    Area - CORK & ROSS (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - MUINTERVARA

    Baptism of MARGARET SULLIVAN of FILEGEG on 14 June 1864

    NameMARGARET SULLIVANDate of BirthN/R N/R N/RAddressFILEGEGFatherMICK SULLIVANMotherMARGRET DALY

    Sponsor 1PAT BOHANESponsor 2MARGRET BOHANE

    Area - CORK & ROSS (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - BANTRY

    Baptism of MARGARET SULLIVAN of N/R on 21 July 1863

    NameMARGARET SULLIVANDate of BirthN/R N/R N/RAddressN/RFatherMICHAEL SULLIVANMotherMARGARET DALY

    Sponsor 1JOHN SULLIVANSponsor 2MARY GIBBONSRecorded Diocesan AreaCORK & ROSSRecorded Parochial AreaBANTRY

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Monday 21st Jan 2019, 09:00PM
  • I don't have the names of her relatives... which even makes it more difficult.

    I saw the 1863 one in Bantry, and was going by that. 

    In the 1910 Census, it says her Birth year was about 1872, and she immigrated in 1880

    In the 1920 Census, this time it says her birth year is about 1877, and she immigrated in 1882, and she was Naturalized, however can't search for that record due to government shut down. However, I did find her husbands and it does say on his that she was born in County Cork. 

    There is a possible Passenger Record from 1889, saying she arrived to New York on March 25, 1889, and she was 20 years old from Cork and her destination was New York. It was on the ship named Eutria and the port of Depature was Liverpool and Queenstown. But it's hard to tell if it's actually her because her name isn't listed near anyone with the same last name. 

    She had one of her daughters on Nov. 21, 1895, and Washington state birth records say that she was 25 at the time. 

    I even tried to look for Death records of her mom, since the family story is that her mom died when Margaret was around 2 years old, or even a person with the surname Sullivan who died due to drinking too cold of water in a hot mine... but can't seem to find anything 

     

    ayoung0316

    Tuesday 22nd Jan 2019, 04:16AM
  • A. Young:

    I assume you know that the free site www.irishgenealogy.ie also has civil birth record images from 1864-1941. I searched for all Margaret Sullivan civil birth records from 1868-1877 (using the data you provided from US census records) and there are about 200 Margaret Sullivan birth records in Co. Cork registration districts (Bandon, Cork, Fermoy, etc)  You can take the time to review all of those records for a mother with the maiden name of either Daley or Davey. (By the way, Davey is a surname usually found up in Mayo/Sligo). Let me know if I can further assist.

    Roger

     

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Tuesday 22nd Jan 2019, 04:50PM
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    A. Young,

    Jane Halloran Ryan has asked me to help you if I can but so far, nothing of great consequence has turned up.

    I went a different way to find Margaret as you had mentioned that her mother had possibly died in childbirth a couple of years after she was born. I checked the Civil Records from 1865 - 1880 in the Bantry Registration district for the headlands you mentioned, and more importantly included the Beara Peninsula which is the home of the Sullivan Clan of the era and now.

    I confined my search to the name Margaret Sullivan and for death records only. Of the 34 of the name that had died in the given years, only six of them were of child bearing years with the rest as very elderly or babies. Of these six, the only one who had information attached was a spinster aged 27 in 1865. The other five did not have information attached but if you wish to pursue this line, photocopies of the death record can be purchased from the G.R.O. (General Registration Office) at €4.00 each. Contact details on irishgenealogy.ie and this is a link to the revelant page I was looking up for these deaths.    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-perform-sear…;

    Sorry about the length of the link but as an alternative, in irishgenealogy.ie Civil Records put in Margaret Sullivan with Bantry as the location and the dates 1865 - 1880 and you should come up with the 34 Margaret's.

    I also searched Irish Genealogy for similar years for the birth of Margaret and came up with 81 Margaret's but of these only  five had a mother whose maiden name was Daly. None of the fathers were Michael and none of the mothers were Margaret. I will attach these files to this message below.

    I will continue to look to see if I can find further infpormation but not very hopeful. If you want to contact me by email rather than through this site which I find difficult, please do to or alternatively, just put your email address on your response to this message.        frankfahy@eircom.net

    Frank Fahy

    Frank Fahy West Cork

    Tuesday 22nd Jan 2019, 07:55PM
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    Hi Frank and Roger! 

    Thank you so much for the information, I will have to take a look at it! The link that was in one of the replies doesn't work, so I'll have to go through it. I know at some point Margaret Sullivan made her way from New York to Seattle, because she eventually married by 2x Great-Grandfather Bernard Sloan (who's father was from Belfast, but he himself was born in Quebec. Fun Fact his father, Patrick Sloan lived in a hallowed out tree stump at Bernard and Margaret's West Seattle home). They were married in 1893 in Seattle. I've attached the Washington State Marriage return, so I don't know if that would help. 

    Is there any where else to reach out to that's not already been mentioned or online? I've already reached out to the County Cork Archives, but I know it might be a while until I hear back. 

    My email is adrea.a.young@gmail.com 

    Once again thank you all for helping me! I'm determined to find something this year about this side of the family! :) 

    ~Adrea

    ayoung0316

    Wednesday 23rd Jan 2019, 05:35AM
  • I think I found something of interest, there was a Michl Sullivan and a Margaret Daly married on Feb 8, 1853 in Durris/Muintervara, however there is also a Michael Sullivan and Margaret Daly married on Feb 5, 1856 in Bantry. 

    Durris/Muintervara info 

    Bantry info 

    And these were the only two matches that popped on on the Irish Genealogy page... so this is a start right, since both of these locations are in the Cork Headlands from the research I so far have done?? 

     

    ayoung0316

    Tuesday 5th Feb 2019, 04:32AM

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