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Hi, I have an ancestor John Mitchell, born 1831 in St Quivox, Ayrshire, Scotland.

His parents were William Mitchell (b. circa 1806) and Jane Christie (b. circa 1811) both born in Ireland according to the 1841 census. They married in 1826 in St Quivox (although Jane's surname is recorded as 'Cruston' in the parish register.

I think, but haven't yet verified that William's parents were Samuel Mitchell and Martha Stewart, again both born in Ireland.

I don't have any other information to go on at this stage.

Can anyone please help?

Yours in hope,

Rich Mackay

Rich Mac

Friday 18th Nov 2022, 02:19PM

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  • Rich,

    I see from Scotlandspeople that the 1826 marriage was Church of Scotland so I presume the family were Presbyterian. That and their surnames suggest they probably originated in what is now Northern Ireland.

    The Lindsay family tree on Ancestry has this family and it records that Samuel Mitchell was a farmer (presumably obtained from a Scottish death certificate). If alive c 1830, Samuel should be in the tithe applotment records. They were a list of persons with land, ie mostly farmers. Here are all the Samuel Mitchells in NI in those records. There were 11, and the records give their townland and parish. If you get no other leads it might help narrow your search a bit.:

    Mitchell, Sam.-Townland: Ballykeel Year: 1834-Drumgath-Down

    Mitchell, Sam.-Townland: Drumhillary Year: 1827-Tynan-Armagh

    Mitchell, Saml.-Townland : Ballyloghan Year: 1825-Portglenone-Antrim

    Mitchell, Saml.-Townland : Edan Year: 1834-Finvoy-Antrim

    Mitchell, Saml.-Townland: Lismacarrol Year: 1834-Clondermot-Derry

    Mitchell, Saml.-Townland: Slainsallagh Year: 1825-Skerry-Antrim

    Mitchell, Saml.-Townland: Tagharina Year: 1834-Clondermot-Derry

    Mitchell, Samuel-- Townland: Lisnisky Year: 1834-Seagoe-Armagh

    Mitchell, Samuel-Townland: Artigoran Year: 1825-Ballymoney-Antrim

    Mitchell, Samuel-Townland: Carricklean Year: 1827-Tynan-Armagh

    Mitchell, Samuel-Townland: Cross Year: 1827-Cumber Lower-Derry

    Statutory birth, death and marriage registration (in some jurisdictions called Vital Records) only started in Ireland in 1864, save for non RC marriages which were recorded from 1845 onwards. So, apart from possibly finding William’s parents death if after 1864, you probably won’t find statutory birth, death or marriage certificates in Ireland for this family. For earlier years you usually need to rely on church records, where they exist.  Ideally you need to know the precise denomination and have some idea of where the person was born in order to search the correct records. Not all churches have records for that period and not all are on-line.

    RC records are mostly on-line on the nli site:  

    https://www.nli.ie/en/family-history-introduction.aspx

    For other denominations, the churches usually hold the originals but there are also copies in PRONI, the public record office, in Belfast. A personal visit is required to access them. Access to the records there is free. This link explains what records exist, parish by parish:

    https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/publications/proni-guide-church-records

    If you are unable to go yourself, you could employ a researcher. Researchers in the PRONI area: http://sgni.net

    Their e-mail contact is: secretary@sgni.net

    Possibly DNA testing may be a way of matching with others who have additional information about where the family originate. Family Tree DNA reportedly has more people with Ulster roots than any other company. That obviously increases the chances of finding a match. You might want to try them or, if you have already tested, you can transfer your results to them for no fee.

    The North of Ireland Family History Society is running an Ulster DNA project in conjunction with FTDNA and can offer testing kits at a reduced price.  http://www.nifhs.org (Go to DNA project on the website).

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Friday 18th Nov 2022, 06:51PM
  • Elwyn,

     

    thanks so much for the very quick and helpful response, much appreciated.

     

    Rich

    Rich Mac

    Saturday 19th Nov 2022, 08:41AM

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