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Hello, 

I’ve been searching for any records of my great great grandfather, George Nethercott. The story goes that he is from Enniskillen, County Fermanagh. I’ve been to the town hall and Proni and have found nothing on my particular George. 

This is what I know: He was born approximately the year 1836. At some point he married Eliza Clement from Rickmansworth, England. He had 4 children: Robert, George, Mary and Ellen. The family emigrated in 1882 to the United States. They were sponsored by an Elizabeth Nethercott Sargeant (could be a sister) from Greenwich, CT. I have Elizabeth’s marriage certificate. It states phonetically that she was from Kilcow, County Fermana, Ireland- it was written by a clerk. Her parents are listed as  John Nethercott and Mary Flannigan.  

Is it possible that there is a town in County Fermanagh that sounds like Kilcow? 

I’ll be in Ireland in August and I’d really like a lead to my George! 

Thank you,

Eileen 

 

Eacr56

Thursday 26th Apr 2018, 09:23AM

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  • Looking at the 1901 census for Fermanagh, all the Nethercotts listed there were Church of Ireland save for 1 RC.  Many Church of Ireland records for that county were lost in the 1922 fire in Dublin, including those for Enniskillen where you believe George may have been born. So that will make it difficult to trace him.

    There’s certainly nowhere in Fermanagh named Kilcow. There’s plenty of townlands which start with Kil (it indicates a church) but I can’t especially identify one that might be where this family originated. You can view them on this site:

    http://www.thecore.com/seanruad/

    I can’t see George & Eliza’s marriage in Ireland. Did they marry in England?

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Tuesday 1st May 2018, 07:29PM
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    Hello Elwyn,

    The marriage of Elizabeth Nethercott to Robert Sargeant in New York was in an Episcopal Church so it is possible that her parents,  John and Mary Flanigan,  were married in the Church of Ireland. Would the Church in Enniskillen still have record of that? Or were all records sent to Dublin? 

    It is possible that George Nethercott and Eliza Clement were married in England. There is a census record that lists  just Eliza Nethercott, with her first two sons, in England. Her status is married but George is not listed on the census. Where he was, I do not know. The first document I have with George, Eliza and children is their ship document when they emigrated. 

    I have been able to trace Eliza Clement Nethercott and her family tree back to the 1500’s, and thanks to DNA testing have been able to verify a lot of it. George, on the other hand, is very elusive. And he’s the reason I did the testing!

    Thank you for your response and help,

    Eileen 

     

     

     

    Eacr56

    Wednesday 9th May 2018, 03:08AM
  • Also, I have George’s birth year wrong: it should be approximately 1850. The US censuses and the ship documents put his birth at about 1850. Does that change the availability of information for the Enniskillen area or was that time also lost in Dublin in 1922? 

    Eacr56

    Wednesday 9th May 2018, 03:19AM
  • I see that son Robert was born c 1869 in Middlesex. So presumably George & Eliza married before that. I searched the English marriage records but did not find a marriage for them. I note Eliza was apparently born c 1841 (aged 30 in 1871) and I searched back to 1860 but without success.

    I note the revised year of birth for George, though if Eliza was born in 1841 there would have been a 10 year difference in their ages.

    This is a summary of the records for Enniskillen Church of Ireland. There’s a copy in PRONI in Belfast:

    [Formerly known as Enniskeen or Inniskeen]

    [Earliest registers destroyed in Dublin]

    Extracts of baptisms, 1667-1789, marriages, 1668-1794, and burials, 1667-1781; burials, 1879-1907 and

    1941-50;vestry minutes, 1731-1920; copy deeds, 1796-9; select vestry minutes, 1871-80; register of church members, 1871 and 1946-50; preachers’ book, 1895-1928.

    Extracts from baptism, marriage and burial registers, 1666-1826.

    Printed copy of Old Enniskillen Vestry Book, with extracts of births, marriages and deaths, 1666-c.1797.

    Extracts from vestry minutes, 1666-1912, which include some baptism, marriage and burial entries.

     

    The baptism records resume in 1861. So if George was born around 1850, those records are also lost.

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Sunday 13th May 2018, 08:02PM
  • all the best,

    thank

     

    Hello Elwyn, 

    Thank you for the document listings, I’ll look them up when I’m in Belfast. 

    I think my Great Great grandfather was a bit of a jokester. The US censuses have various ages for him and Eliza. Even though they are taken every ten years, they’ve aged 20 from the previous census then, miraculously, are 10 years younger the next! 

    I’ll be doing some research here in New York once school is out and I can devote more time. 

    Do you know of anyone who I can address for help at the Proni office?

    Thank you for your help and time.

    All the best, 

    Eileen 

    Eacr56

    Friday 1st Jun 2018, 04:05AM
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    Eileen,

     

    Researchers in the PRONI area: http://sgni.net

     

     

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Friday 1st Jun 2018, 03:47PM

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