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Hi I'm hoping to make the trip from Australia to Ireland in the latter part of 2016 to visit my ancestral roots. I would like to know if there is an organisation or people I could contact prior to my trip who could help me optimise my time. My GG Grandfather Hugh Beattie migrated to Australia in 1842, he married Mary Rolston in Clonfeacle in 1840, his father was John Beatty b. circa 1790(married Eliza Holmes), John had a brother James b.1788 (married Sarah Marshall). I believe John and James father was also Hugh.

I am interested in where to look for church yards, records, local knowledge, anything so I can plan my research for my trip.

Thankyou

John

johnbt

Saturday 22nd Aug 2015, 01:52AM

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  • You don’t say what denomination the family was but if they were protestant, then copies of most of the surviving church records for that area are held in PRONI (the public record office) in Belfast. There is an e-catalogue which you can search on-line but the records themselves are not on-line and a personal visit is required to view them.

     

    http://www.proni.gov.uk/index.htm

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Monday 24th Aug 2015, 05:24AM
  • Hi Elwyn, I have just now come across your reply. I'm not aware that I had any notification of your response.

    My ancestors were Wesleyan faith. Thank you very much for youradvice, I will get in touch with PRONI as you have suggested.

    Regards, John

     

    johnbt

    Friday 18th Mar 2016, 09:28PM
  • John,

    Sorry you didn’t get the previous message. There was a fault in our computer system last year and it appears that you didn’t get a notification when you should have. Please accept my apologies.

    You say the family were Methodist. Well in Ireland Methodism took much longer to become established denomination than was the case in England and elsewhere. (Irish Methodists mostly didn’t want to break the link with the Church of Ireland). The earliest that Methodists in Ireland could baptise their own children was 1816, and I have never seen any Methodist marriages earlier than 1836.  But for most circuits, it was years later before they conducted their own baptisms and marriages. So I think you’ll find that for the period you are looking at, your family would have still been using the Church of Ireland for births and marriages.

    I looked at the records available for Methodists in the Clonfeacle area. There were two Meeting Houses (Blackwatertown and Moy). Neither has any baptisms prior to 1874.

    However when we look at the Church of Ireland records available for Clonfeacle, there were 5 churches there. Annaghmore, Brantry, Clonfeacle, Derrygortreavy & Moy. Annaghmore only has records from 1856 onwards. The other 4 churches records were all destroyed in the 1922 fire in Dublin. So in short, sadly, there are no records for you to search.

    Consequently you may struggle to find any records of your family at all. Do you have any idea of their townland or what their occupations were in Ireland?

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Saturday 19th Mar 2016, 09:21PM
  • Hi  Elwyn, I believe my ancestors lived at Tireagerty and Mullyleggin, near Blackwatertown. The information  I have suggests that Hugh's father John Beatty was a landholder/farmer. On the immigration documents it states that Hugh was a native of Clonfeacle, Armagh and that his calling was as a carpenter. His wife Mary Rolston states she was a native of Clonfeacle and that her calling was "Dairy Maid, In Certificate, Domestic Servt". 

     

    johnbt

    Tuesday 21st Jun 2016, 02:32AM
  • http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Charlemont/Tireagerty/1011995/

     

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Charlemont/Tireagerty/325837/

     

     

    Probate abstract:

    Probate of the Will of John Beattie late of Tyregarty, Co. Armagh, Farmer, who died 16 April 1920 granted at Armagh 25 January 1921 to James Trotter and James Thompson, Farmers, the nephews. Effects: £625 15s 6d. (The full probate fule and will should be held by PRONI).

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Wednesday 22nd Jun 2016, 02:59PM

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