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Looking for family connections for Daniel McNally (var spellings) and Anne McGurk who married c1832 (Daniel was first married to Jean Maglone) there were four daughters and two sons and one of the sons Francis born about 1840 and came to New Zealand about 1860 where he married Bridget Forde in 1862. The family came originally from Sheetrim in Middletown Co Armagh.
patsymThursday 24th May 2012, 11:20PM
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Do you know what religion your ancestors were?
There are Roman Catholic church records available for the diocese of Tynan (Armagh). These date from 1822 for both baptismal and marriage records. You can find these at the National Library of Ireland (NLI), Pos. 5589, or the Public Records of Northern Ireland (PRONI), MIC.1D/40, or the Church of Latter Day Saints, ref. no. 09799710, item 6-8. If you have any difficulty, you could try writing to the parish priest for more assistance.
Civil registration records are available from the General Register Office (GRO). These start from 1864 however. You can access the website here: http://www.groireland.ie/research.htm
You could also try checking the land records called the Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38) or the later Griffith's Valuation (1848-64). Griffith's is freely available here: www.askaboutireland.com or here: www.failteromhat.com Failte Romhat has lots of other useful links you could try looking at. Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38). Microfilm copies of the books for all of Ireland are available at the National Archives of Ireland (NAI) http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/tithe-applotment-books-and-the-primary-griffith-valuation/ or the Church of Latter Day Saints (LDS).
Do you know much about their emigration? Dates, the reason why they left, etc.? Generally, more information was given at the port of arrival rather than the port of departure. If you knew which city they arrived at, this could be a good place to find more information.. There are lots of books and documents available about the Irish emigration to NZ. There is a website you could look at: http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/irish/2 for information about the Irish in New Zealand.
You might find this link useful: http://www.theirisharchives.com/counties/view/20/Armagh
1796: Spinning Wheel Premium Entitlement Lists This was part of a government scheme to encourage the linen trade, free spinning wheels or looms were granted to individuals planting a certain area of land with flax. The lists of those entitled to the awards, covering almost 60,000 individuals, were published in 1796, and record only the names of the individuals and the civil parish in which they lived. The majority, were in Ulster, but some names appear from every county except Dublin and Wicklow. A microfiche index to the lists is available in the National Archives, and in PRONI. You can check www.failteromhat.com for information and lists. There were 3,100 names for Co. Armagh.
1803-31: Armagh Freeholders and Poll Books PRONI ARM 5/2/1-17, D 1928. Also NLI Ir. 94116 a 1, Ir. 352 p 2.
There is a book by J. J. Marshall you might find interesting called 'History of the parish of Tynan in the County of Armagh: with notices of the O'Neill, Hovenden, Stronge and other families connected with the district' (1932).
Please make sure you link anyone else in your family who is interested in their Irish heritage to our site - and indeed anyone else you know of Irish heritage.
Genealogist (Ireland XO)
Hi Patsy M and Sinead,
I'll provide an alternative to Sinead Cooneys suggestion (which i admit is more probable) but in any case,
Monaghan and Armagh are neighbouring counties and Middletown straddles the county borderline.
The name Daniel appears many times in my family in these years (and to this day) and as it happens there is another neighbouring family of McGurks across the very fields from where they lived. Interestingly, so does the name francis and as you know the naming patterns in irish families was fairly predictable - sons named after fathers father etc etc....
All my details are on the site below.
Could there be a possibility that the family moved from monaghan to middletown and onto New Zealand? Its only a thought.
Dermot, Monaghan ireland
Hi Dermot - thanks fro the reply. I cant seem to access your pages for some reason cannot even access angelfire.com so not sure whats going on. I would love to find a connecton for Daniel McNally if possible. will continue to try and access your pages. My email is patsym at inet.net.nz
Its definately there - try retyping the link or copy and paste it...
alternatively do a new search on google for mcnally genealogy and it pops up!
Hmm well that didnt work, this time I just get a blank page which is better than what I had yesterday. There could be a hiccup on the net so will keep trying Dermot. cheers
Although this string of posts is pretty old, thought I would give it a try to see if I can get some assistance finding my ancestor. From the various research I have been doing my McAnelly ancestor and his wife to be were both from Ireland and went to Liverpool where they were married before immigrating to Pennsylvania in the Untied States in the late 1700’s or early 1800’s. From what I can gather from my genealogy and DNA testing, my branch was most likely a part of the Scots immigration to Ireland, but I have no idea how to go about determining this or where in Ireland they may have settled and propagated. Any help in that quarter would be greatly appreciated.
Hi there PatiMc.
I'd be interested in touching base with you directly. I'm available at Dermymcnally@gmail.com but the link to the website which I listed in earlier messages on this thread is no longer visible.
I also did dna testing and the results are listed at ftdna.com
Once you make email contact we can try to compare information,