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Hello,

I have traced back to my 3rd great grandfather, Patrick McAuley (1791-1872) of Kildysert, Clare.  He married Margaret Cooper.  My question relates to the 1855 Griffith's Valuation.  I did not see his name listed there, but there is a Patrick Cooley and am wondering if Cooley is a variant of McAuley.  I am trying to locate the land that my McAuley ancestors lived on.  (My great grandfther, Charles McAuley (McCauley in USA) was born 24 Sept. 1864 to Charles McAuley and Bridget Doherty in Ballynacally, Clare).

Hope there is someone who can offer assistance on the surname variant. Much appreciation.

Best Regards,

Patricia M.

 

 

 

bluebird27613

Friday 14th Jul 2017, 12:22AM

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  • Patricia,

    This site doesn’t mention McCauley as a variation of Cooley:

    https://www.johngrenham.com/findasurname.php?surname=Cooley

    Griffiths Valuation isn’t a complete census. Not everyone in Ireland was in it. People lodging with others, servants, and people with houses of very low value are not listed. 

    What was Patrick’s townland and occupation when he died in 1872?

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Friday 14th Jul 2017, 06:53AM
  • Thank you Elwyn and Dorann for your replys.  Any clues are very welcomed as you never know where one might lead you.

    Patrick McAuley died in Killadysert, Clare in 1872.   That may also be the townland as everything I have found thus far has only the name Killadysert. The modern spelling is Kildysart.  I am not certain what Patrick's occupation was. Several of the McAuley's were "slaters".  One Irish census says "slater & plasterer"  My great grandfather Charles (spelled McCauley in US) b1864 in Ballynacally was a "plasterer" as indicated on the US census. His parents are Charles McAuley (b 1829 in Kiladysert Diocese Killaloe) and Bridget Doherty.

    Yes, I have had DNA matches with two other's in this family line, and it was very nice to make these connections.  However, I did not learn anything new with regards to what I already had in my tree.  I have seen a photo from "Find A Grave" for Bridget McAuley nee Finnucane and as you indicate, had great information and was very helpful to me in making a connection to other McAuley's who came over to America and were going to visit an uncle "Finnucane" in Philadelphia.  

    With regards to my question about the surname McAuley variations, I did come across something on Ancestry.com that I think gives a clue which says:

    Cooley Name Meaning

    Irish: Anglicized form of Gaelic Mac Giolla Chúille ‘son of the servant of (Saint) Mochúille’, a rare Clare name, or a reduced form of McCooley, a variant of McCauley. Americanized form of German Kuhle or Kühle, variants of Kuhl.

    Source: Dictionary of American Family Names ©2013, Oxford University Press

    All of the surname variations I have come across over the years for a few of my Irish ancestors makes tracing them a bit of a challenge.  I once read that with this issue-sometimes it is not how it is spelled but rather how it sounds is equally important. I will have to keep learning more to see if this Patrick Cooley who listed on the 1855 Griffiths at "Village of Killadysert" with a house, office and small garden is in fact my 3rd great grandfather Patrick McAuley of Killadysert. I will continue to dig in and learn more on this subject.

    Any thoughts or clues are very welcomed.  Again I thank you for your help.  This is a wonderful website!!

    Best regards,

    Pat M.

     

    bluebird27613

    Tuesday 18th Jul 2017, 12:51AM

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