Cemetery where Members of Schull East Church were buried from 1800 to 1900
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Can you please tell me the cemetery or cemeteries where members of the Schull East Church, Ballydehob, were buried in the 1800's?
Also, is there an historical record of who is buried in these cemeteries?
My 3rd great-grandparents were Morgan Rahilly and Mary Margaret Coghlan (Coughlan).
The only solid record I have is their marriage registration from Sept 1830 (attached). They were born Abt. 1810. They lived in the area, raised 5 daughters (Catherine, Honora, Mary, Margaret Mary and Mary). Morgan worked in the local mines, we understand.
We are hoping to find their gravesites.
Thank you very much for any bit of information.
Lois Mathews, Milford, Delaware
Lois MathewsMonday 20th Mar 2023, 10:44AM
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Schull East was a Catholic Parish in the Civil Parish of Skull. There was also a Schull West Catholic Parish as you can see in this map from the National Library of Ireland: https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0094
The National Library of Ireland however, does not show that any Schull East burial records are available.
Ballydehob was in the Civil Parish of Skull, according to the IreAtlas Townland Data Base: https://rebrand.ly/ibj305c
The Find A Grave website lists seven cemeteries in the Ballydehob area. These include:
Kilcoe 19th Century Roman Catholic Church Cemetery
Kilcoe Church of Ireland Cemetery
Kilcoe Old Graveyard
Saint Brigid Catholic Churchyard
St. Matthias' Churchyard Cemetery
Stouke Burial Ground
To access burials in these cemeteries go to:
Information about those buried in these cemeteries is user submitted. I looked for the Rahilly surname in each of the above cemeteries. I did not find that anyone had submitted information about Rahilly burials in the seven cemeteries for Ballydehob and surrounding areas.
Find A Grave has satellite maps for each location of the seven cemeteries, but these maps do not give specific directions about how to get to each cemetery from Ballydehob.
This Google Map shows the locations of Bawnaknockane, Kilcoe, St. Brigid’s Catholic Church, the St. Matthias Church, and Stouke: https://rebrand.ly/u8i8z7b
Before visiting Ballydehob in May, contact Ireland Reaching Out and make a request for a guide who would be able to meet you and take you to the Ballydehob cemeteries noted in Find A Grave. A local guide may also have information about copper minds in the area.
You can fill out a Meet and Greet form from Ireland Reaching Out at:
An Ordnance Survey Map from circa 1830s/1840s shows the location of Ballydehob. See the map at: https://rebrand.ly/i5tv92d
To the northwest on the map of Ballydehob you’ll see a church. Just to the east of the church is the location of a copper mine. To the north of the church is another copper mine. There is the possibility that Morgan Rahilly had worked in one of these mines.
Best of Luck,
A million thanks for your detailed and generous response! How very kind of you. You provided a lot of valuable information. My cousins and I will follow up on each piece, especially requesting a local guide to help with the finding cemeteries and local mining information.
We are over-whelmed with gratitude.
I'll let you know how things pan out (...oops...I didn't mean to use a mining pun!)
Best wishes from chilly, windy Delaware
You're welcome Lois and many thanks for your kind words. I do hope things pan out for you in Ireland and you strike gold as far as sluicing out the location of the cemetery where your ancestors are buried. Hopefully a volunteer from the Ballydehob area will contact you soon, as the month of May will be here before you know it.
Please let me know if someone from Ballydehob contacts you. Also Lois, if there are any old maps you'd like me to send you of towns in County Cork, or anywhere else in Ireland, please don't hesitate to ask. A lot of the old Ordnance Survey Maps are in color.
Thank you again for your kindness.
With Best wishes from cold New England.
Gosh, Dave, you found my weakness -- maps! I've loved them since I was a child. My 2xgreat-grandparents were Maurice Stack and Honora Rahilly Stack. They owned a store (furniture, clothes) in 1850-1900. These are some of the addresses/areas from this era where they (Rahilly and Stacks) lived and worshipped:
4 Kyle St, Cork City
39 Gratten St
St Finbarr's South Church
Ss Peter and Pauls, Cork City
St. Mary's Cork City
Ballydehob Schull East (of course!)
If you happen to have any maps that might include these locations, I would be grateful to have them.
Regarding our search for Ballydehob records, after reading of the devastation that the famine wrecked on the Ballydehob area, I have come to accept the fact that record-keeping of death and burial records was the least of their worries. I understand there are a number of mass graves. I am hoping to connect with a geneologist from Ballydehob in the next week or so.to help. I do know that Morgan Rahilly moved his family eastward to the Ballinspittle area during the worst years of the famine. That might explain why their 5th daughter was baptised at St. Mary's Cork City, and that my 3xGGM (Honora Rahilly Stack) married in that city also.
Somethings we will never know, but it's interesting to find every bit of the puzzle.
I will let you know if I find a local guide in Ballydehob.
Thanks so very much for the interest, maps and chat!
It’s great to hear you like maps too. I think maps bring to genealogy more than just names, and descriptions of places, as maps can show where an ancestor had lived, worked, and worshipped.
I believe I found the maps you requested. The maps are from the GeoHive website and are called Ordnance Survey Maps. You’ll see two particular editions of maps in the reply. One is the 25 inch black and white Ordnance Survey Map, which according to GeoHive, is dated from 1897 to 1913
The second is the 6 inch colour Ordnance Survey Map dated from 1829 to 1841. In some cases I’ve included both maps for one location. Below I’ll refer to the maps as either black and white or colour. I’ll be using the English/Irish spelling for “colour,” as that is how these are described at GeoHive.
The following is the black and white map from the 1897 to 1913 time period. It shows where 4 Kyle Street, Cork would be today, though back in the late 1800s and early 1900s, this location may not have referred exactly to the 4 Kyle Street address: https://rebrand.ly/732luda
Next is the black and white map for Gratten Street, Cork City, which runs from a northwesterly direction from Bachelor’s Quay, southeasterly to Sheares and Liberty Streets : https://rebrand.ly/vexouhc
This colour map shows Duncan Street, Cork City, from Bachelor’s Quay past Nile Street and then becoming Court Street: https://rebrand.ly/n615zbo
Here is Saint Finbarr’s South Church, Dunbar Street, Cork City: https://rebrand.ly/s5jykfl
The following colour maps shows the location of Saints Peter and Paul Church. Both maps refer to the church as the “R.C. Chap,” and R.C. Ch: https://rebrand.ly/rodb00u; https://rebrand.ly/9mw98t6
On this colour map, Saint Mary’s Church, Cork City, is called the Dominican Chapel, located between Pope’s Quay and Camden Quay: https://rebrand.ly/4xei4v2
Moving ahead in time to the black and white map, Saint Mary’s Cork City is called the R.C. Ch.: https://rebrand.ly/vq5atpo
Here is a very good looking colour map of Carrigaloe, eastern shore of the Cork Harbour, and just south of Passage West: https://rebrand.ly/z39b15t
The following is a colour map of Cove. Cove is the English Spelling. In Irish, it is Cobh. There is no letter v in the Irish language. The letters bh are pronounced as the letter v in Irish. For that matter, the Irish language doesn’t include the letters j, k, q, w, x, y, or z either. The English also called Cove, Queenstown: https://rebrand.ly/aosnpst
The next two links will bring you to colour and black and white Ordnance Survey Maps of Ballydehob: https://rebrand.ly/l0nsck8; https://rebrand.ly/g5d9cx2
Here is a beautiful colour map of Ballinspittle showing the locations of the R.C. Chapel, the Pound, the Constabulary, the Dispensary, the Corn Mill, and the National School, just south of the River Spit: https://rebrand.ly/73qq3hp
The Rahilly family may have worshipped in the Ballinspittle R.C. Chapel, and the children may have attended the National School.
Ballinspittle is the English spelling for the town. In Irish it is, “Béal Átha an Spidéil,” meaning the “ford-mouth of the hospital.” In other words “spiddle” means hospital, from which the River Spit is also derived. The colour map of Ballinspttle shows the location of a Dispensary, where medical care may have been provided and where medicines were dispensed.
This is a Google Street View of the River Spit in Ballinspittle: https://rebrand.ly/q3coqef
Thank you for writing Lois. I hope you enjoy looking at the maps as much as I did. My favorite is the map of Ballinspittle for it’s detail and colorization of the River Spit.
With Kindest Regards,
Gosh, Dave. These maps are incredible! Especially that some of them are from almost 200 years ago.
This must have taken quite a bit of time to gather. This was so nice of you to do. Our family will so appreciate these.
It would have taken me days and days to collate, and even then, heaven knows what I would have captured!
Your explanations of the Irish alphabet and translations was an added bonus.
I truly feel as if I was just on a personal tour of Cork.
Thank you ever so much.
I will defintely let you know if we make any head-way on finding our ancestors burial grounds.
Take good care!
You're welcome Lois, and many thanks for your kind words. It is very much appreciated.
Best of Luck with your research.