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Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
I hope your parents have a good trip in September.
In relation to churches or cemeteries of interest in Newtown/Shandrum (Newtown is a eperate parish to Charleville, though its boundary does come close to Charleville) I think you are looking at the following:
- Newtown parish church, built around 1847 (Newtown also known as Newtownshandrum, was previously known as the Civil Parish of Shandrum, about 5 miles west of Charleville)
- Shandrum cemetery, between Newtown and Charleville, it is a few hundred yards off the in-between road
I have been looking at the McNaughten and Geary names in the parish. You may be aware that during the nineteenth century England was in a process of trying to Anglicise the surnames by removing Mc/Mac and O' from surnames. I think it is likely that the McNaughten name evolved to Naughton during the centurary.
As the McNaughten children were born during the 1840s and 1850s, the only other record available at the time was Griffiths Valuation. Griffiths Valuation was the basis of assessing tax on people that occupied land and/or property. Of its nature it does not include everyone living in the parish. Looking through Griffiths Valuation the only David McNaughten/Naughton (or any other variation of the name) is David Naughton in the townland of Coolasmuttane. There are also Geary's in the same townland but there is no way of knowing if they are the same Geary's.
Another reason I think these Naughton's are likely to be the same as the ones that you outlined is because of a marriage record of Maurice Naughton of Coolasmuttane (spelling is somewhat different on the record) in 1885. His father's name is given as David and one of the witnesses is Maurice Geary (see attachment, 3rd on page). This family were living in the townland of Broghill North at the time the 1901 and 1911 census returns were taken.
I also attach a 'map' of the area showing the various townlands, you might excuse the writing. If you want to email me on any of the above you can email me at nospam0to24 at gmail dot com.
Hi my great great grandmother was Mary Geary and she was born in Newtownshandrum Charleville Co.Cork. Her parents were Richard and Ellen Geary and they are bueried in Newtownshandrum graveyard. My great great grandmothers brother Michael owned Gearys Bar in Charleville and it is still in the family name. If I can be of assistance please email me at email@example.com
Hi Caroline did your parents have a successful visit to Shandrum and Ireland; is there any further info you require
John DONEGAN; Newtownshandrum, Charleville Co Cork
Hi John it was Jeanie Lewis who was visiting and it turns out we are related. Her parents did have a very enjoyable visit to Newtownshandrum. I am a descendant of the Geary family in Coolasmuttane, Newtownshandrum, do you know anything about them or have any information?
Hey Caroline! Good to check in again. We will connect on email over Easter Thanks for replying.
John-- thanks for checking in to see how it went. Lovely!!!! I cannot tell you how awesome it is to know our Geary cousins like Caroline and our Naughton cousins in Shandrum/charleville!!
Hope everyone in your area remains well... Chicago pretty much in lock down
Jennie and Gillian; thanks for your reply; Jennie what's your email address; I do have some info to exchange with you;
Regards John Donegan
John could you please exchange your information with me also. My Great Great Grandmother was Mary Geary (b.1865) and her parents were Richard Geary (b.1807) and Ellen Walsh who lived in Coolasmuttane.
Jeanies ancestor David McNaughton married Elizabeth Geary who is my ancestor, Richard's cousin.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Hi my email is firstname.lastname@example.org