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I'm researching a great great grandfather, Patrick Culbert born abt 1841. On the UK 1881 census he stated he was born in Kildare. He married a Martha nee O'Neill also from Kildare and before they went to UK they had a son John born in Kildare about 1861. They had a further 7 children whilst living in UK including my great grandmother Jane born abt 1872. in 1893 they emigrated to the US. Jane died in 1939 and her parents died in the US though i've not been able to track down the dates. Can anyone help with information regarding the parents of Patrick and Martha or any other info.

jackson

Friday 27th Apr 2012, 07:51AM

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  • Hi there,

    Do you have any additional information about what partt of County Kildare they originate from?

    Try checking the 1901/1911 census to find out how many Culbert/O'Neill families were living in the area at that time. You can check this here: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

    You could also try checking the land records called the Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38) or the later Griffth's Valuation (1848-64). Griffith's is freely available here: www.askaboutireland.com or here: www.failteromhat.com Failte Romhat has lots of other useful links you could try looking at.

    Have you tried checking the Ellis Island records (www.ellisisland.org) or the Castle Garden records (www.castlegarden.org)? Generally, more information was given at the port of arrival rather than the port of departure. If you knew which city they arrived at, this could be a good place to find more information, and perhaps even find out an exact place of origin.

    The UK National Archives is probably the best place to find out information about their life in the UK during that period. Do you other details, such as an occupation?

    Civil registration records are available from the General Register Office (GRO). These start from 1864 however. You can access the website here: http://www.groireland.ie/research.htm

    Please make sure you link anyone else in your family who is interested in their Irish heritage to our site - and indeed anyone else you know of Irish heritage.

    Kind regards,

    Sinead Cooney

    Genealogist (Ireland XO)

    Friday 27th Apr 2012, 10:30AM
  • Jackson,

    I am studying the Culberts worldwide, and have a little bit of info. on the family you seek.  I don't know who Patrick Culbert's or Martha O'Neill's parents were.  Nor do I have any information about them migrating to the USA.  I have fairly good information about the Culberts living in the USA, and there is no one in my database who is likely to be him.  I'm sorry, but it appears researching them in the USA is going to be difficult without more information.

    There was a Mary Anne Culbert b. 1843 in Co. Kildare.  There was also a Patrick Culbert who lived in Monasterevin Parish, Co. Kildare, and who was born before 1836.  Maura O'Grady gave me this last info. in Sep 2011, maurogrady at yahoo.ie  Maybe she can help.

    In my database, I have no Culberts for any earlier generation than Patrick in County Kildare.

    Note the typo or change in spelling in the 1891 England Census, Sub-registration district: Hulme, Registration district: Chorlton, Town: Manchester, Civil parish: Hulme, Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark, County: Lancashire
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    Name:    Patrick Calbert
    Age:    50
    Estimated birth year:    abt 1841
    Relation:    Head
    Spouse's name:    Martha
    Gender:    Male
    Where born:    Ireland (Kildare, according to 1881)
    Household Members:    Name    Age
    Patrick Calbert 50
    Martha Calbert 37
    Jane Calbert 18
    Thomas Calbert 15
    Margaret Calbert 13

    I also have info. on some of their descendants, who lived in the U.K.  The person who gave me some of this information in June 2010 was Audrey Giacomin, but I don't have a current email for her.

    I wish I could be of more help.  Best of luck in your search!

    Jim Culbert

    Culbert registration No. 4096

    Guild of One-Name Studies

    jhculbert

    Monday 14th Jan 2013, 10:29PM
  • Jackson,

    I was bothered that I had no Patrick Culbert in my database that might match yours, who supposedly emigrated from ireland to the U.S.A. in 1893.  So I went to the 1900 U.S. Federal Census, NARA Microfilm Publication T623 (FHL microfilm 1241505) at FamilySearch and I found a likely family:

    Enumeration District 225, Ward 5, Newport, Rhode Island, p. 10 B, dwelling no. 168, family no. 219, lines 90-93, 18 Webster Street, image 20 of 48 at FamilySearch

    - John M Hazel, head, age 41, born Jan 1859, Delaware, Machinist

    - Margaret Hazel, wife, age 23, born Nov 1877, England, immigrated 1894, married 1 year

    - Ruth Hazel, daughter, age 8 mos., born Sep 1899, New York

    - Patrick Culbert, father-in-law, age 59, born Ireland, widowed, immigrated 1894, alien, no occupation

    You can view this census enumeration here:

    https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11828-26711-88?cc=1325221&…

    I hope this helps!

    Regards.

    Jim Culbert

    Culbert registration No. 4096

    Guild of One-Name Studies

     

     

    jhculbert

    Monday 14th Jan 2013, 11:10PM
  • I found them by searching the Ellis Island website.

    Patk. Culbert, age 40[sic], arrived 13 Mar 1893 with Martha and Margaret on the ship City of Berlin, departing from Liverpool, England.  You can see the passenger manifest and a picture of the ship there as well.

    jhculbert

    Tuesday 15th Jan 2013, 02:52AM

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