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Hello all. My mother, Mary Josephine Heagney, had an older sister, Ana Maria, born around 1896-1899, as detailed in the 1901 census. The family lived in (and still does) in Ballynomena, close to Durrow and outside Tullamore, Co Offaly. These first names are SO unIrish- the remaining 7 children had completely convential ones. I cannot find either a birth or death certificate for Ana Maria after multiple searches, including at the main registry in Dublin.  I ask of anyone with better skills than I might help? Paddy Ross, resident in Amherst MA, USA.

paddyross

Sunday 1st Dec 2019, 09:44PM

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  • Dear Paddyross:  

    Thank you for your post.  I see that Ann Mary is listed in both the 1901 & 1911 Censuses.  I don't see a civil birth record, but she is recorded as Ann Mary in the Census as opposed to Ana Maria.  A baptism record would probably list her  information.  Do you know when she died?  It may be a matter of looking for a headstone that might give you further information if she is included on it.  Civil deaths were not always recorded unfortunately.  Do other family members have any information?  You mentioned that the family continues to reside in the area.  Please let us know.  All the best,  Jane 

    Jane Halloran Ryan

    Monday 2nd Dec 2019, 12:02PM
  •  Dear Jane, I apologise profusely for taking so long to find your wonderful reply.  Icannot thank you enough for your insights.  I deduce your are a professional genealogist and ask if you can describe in part or whole where you obtained these priceless facts.  I hope to communocate in fuller form later.  Warmly, with my best wishes for full health to you and all friends/family in these awful times. Paddy Ross  

    paddyross

    Sunday 26th Apr 2020, 11:48PM
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    Dear Paddy:

    Thank you for your compliments and yes,I do take on some commissioned research outside of my responsibilities here at Ireland Reaching Out.

    In reply to your question, the 1901 Census listing is here and is free to view:

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/King_s_Co_/Durrow/Ballynamona/1471334/

    You will see that Ann aged 3 was residing with her father, Martin aged 37 Farmer, her mother Elizabeth aged 33 and her sister Mary (under 1) as well as an uncle named Thomas Sellars aged 84.  The above link will lead you to their household form (FormA) as well as their B.1 Form (which shows who the others were in the townland as well as giving information about the type of house, the leasehold and the occupant).  IIn additioin, as Martin was listed as a farmer, he most likely had farm buildings with his holding.  These will be listed on Form B.2 and you might note the House No. 1 which will show what outbuildings existed at that time.  

    This family is listed in the 1911 Census here and again, the above applies:

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/King_s_Co_/Durrow/Ballynamona/560791/

    You can view civil records from 1864 onwards through Irish Genealogy, a Government website that offers civil records as follows:  Births (1864-1919), Marriages (1845-1944) and Deaths (1864-1969).  I have looked for a civil birth record for Anna/Anne/Ann Heagney/Higney between 1890 and 1901 and I have not found any birth record.  It would appear that her birth was not registered for some reason.  It does appear that all her siblings' births were registered. and all registrations occurred in the Tullamore district.  Anna Maria's church baptism record does exist and a transcription of it is on the Roots Ireland website which I attach for your own information,

    As to a civil death record, I have searched for one but have not been able to find it as you had stated.  I think that a graveyard search through Historic Graves, FindAGrave or IrishGraveyards (all online) is worth doing.  If the family is still in the area, there must be a headstone that might indicate who is buried within the graveyard.  You mgiht also search through Irish Newspapers such as the Irish Newspaper Archives (not a free site) or through a subscription site such as FindMyPast which has newspaper collections within it (if you have joined).  Their British Newspaper Archives collection is very good for Irish news titles and it may be worth looking through this. 

    The best of luck with your search.  Please let us know if we can be of further assistance.

    Stay safe.

     

    All the best,  

    Jane.

     

    Jane Halloran Ryan

    Monday 27th Apr 2020, 12:59PM
  • Hi Jane, I see a new message 4 hours ago, but am struggling to find it- new to XO, etc.  I really want to connect with you to initiate a search.  Can I use email for the much longer messages related to background?  Paddy

    paddyross

    Tuesday 28th Apr 2020, 04:25PM
  • Hi Paddy:

     

    I got your  message in my inbox here.  I will reply later today or tomorrow morning.

     

    All the best,

     

    Jane

    Jane Halloran Ryan

    Wednesday 29th Apr 2020, 11:59AM
  • Hi Jane, First I hope you and family are OK.  I dont understand your failure to follow thorough on the previous message, namely replying within 24 hours. I seriously wish to have you, or someone you can recommend, help me unearth more genealogical information about my family.  Warmly, Paddy

    paddyross

    Wednesday 6th May 2020, 11:39AM
  • Hi Paddy:

     

    I'm just seeing this message now.  I will contact you directly.

     

    All the best,

     

    Jane

    Jane Halloran Ryan

    Thursday 7th May 2020, 12:51PM
  • Hi Paddy:

     

    Will you please re-send your message to me?  I can't seem to find it.  My email address is: jhalloranryan@irelandxo.com

    All the best,

     

    Jane

    Jane Halloran Ryan

    Thursday 7th May 2020, 01:09PM

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