Michael Ryan and Margaret Tynan of Mealiffe (Moyaliffe).
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- Michael Ryan and Margaret Tynan of Mealiffe (Moyaliffe).
I am reposting this from the Holycross records to Ballycahill although I know they are connected. Someone might search here and find this.
Michael Ryan and Margaret Tynan are showing in Ballycahill records as having a number of children baptised in the church. Some were born before the records start.
I would really appreciate any assistance anyone can offer about the other members of this family. I have hit a wall with my research. My husband and I had the rather spooky experience of visiting the Moyaliffe cemetery when staying in 2014. I spent two hours photographing the cemetery and river without knowing my people were most likely buried there - and didn't think to look for them amongst the graves!
With the publication of the Catholic baptisms I was very excited to find a townland (Mealiffe) for my Ryan/Tynan ancestors, Michael Ryan and Margaret Tynan. Their daughter, my GGG grandmother, was Bridget Catherine Ryan, who was born before the records start as was another brother Thomas Michael Ryan (who emigrated to Australia). She was born around 1832 and he was born about 1828. Fortunately other siblings made it into the records.
Name Date of Baptism Sponsor/s
Ellenora Ryan 1- 9 -1836 Timothy Tynan & Mary Ryan
Patrick Ryan 9 – 8 -1838 Patrick Dwyer & Margaret Ryan
Margaret Ryan 21-3-1840 Ml. Costelloe & Mary O’Dwyer
Judith Ryan 6 – 6 1842 Pat Ryan & Judy(?) McGrath
Edmund Ryan 24 – 2 – 1847 John and Mary Tynan.
I am hoping to find any information at all about the other members of the family. My GGG grandmother travelled to Australia and married in Melbourne in 1857 to Lawrence O'Rourke (from Clonmel) but I cannot find when she travelled or who she came with. Possibly she went with her brother Thomas, and possibly even the rest of the family went with her but I cannot tell. I know that Michael appears in the Griffiths valuations. There were Tynan families in Newton and Ballymoney I think but I cannot find where they went or if they remained. There is a John Ryan and wife Anne with children including the eldest son, Michael, and the eldest daughter, Margaret, showing in the 1901 and 1911 census for Moyaliffe - who are possible descendants. I have been unable to track them further but they are number 14 house on the records.
My GGG grandparents travelled from Melbourne to Dunedin, Otago, NZ and raised their family there. I am from Christchurch, New Zealand.
I am returning to the area in 2017 and would very much like to find where my people lived. I will go through the house records in Dublin first in the hope something can be revealed. Any clues at all would be very appreciated. Does anyone know of Ryans living in the Moyaliffe area, or particularly what became of household 14?
kezdriscollWednesday 30th Nov 2016, 06:39PM
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Regarding your question of what became of house 14, the Valuation Revision records are held in the Valuation Office in Dublin (as I suspect you know). Those records will show change of occupant with the year (which may be out by a year or two). If you e-mail them they may be willing to look them up for you. There might be a fee. But they may be able to answer your question without you having to go there yourself. See:
Another approach is to identify house 14 using the Griffiths map, and then look for the property today on Google Earth. If it was a labourers cottage it may well be gone but more substantial buildings may still be there.
Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
Thank you Elwyn
I will follow your advice. Yes, I am familiar with the house records in Dublin and will definitely be back to have a look. However, if anyone who lives in or near Dublin is visiting the records, I would really appreciate it if they could have a look for mine. Thanks Kerry