My husband and I will be visiting Ireland this spring, April 30 - May 12. I have been able to trace quite a few of my ancestors to various places throughout the country. Daily from Kildress (Berragh), Co. Tyrone, Runey and Bresnahan from Currow / Killeentierna, Co. Kerry, Riley and Grogan from Taghmon, Co. West Meath. I am hoping to visit at least some of these places and maybe find more information. I would love it if anyone is able to help me out and maybe even meet with us when we arrive.
I have quite a bit of details and documentation on my Ancestry page. Nearly all came pre-famine or during famine so it has been a challenge. I am very excited about this trip. It is my second Ireland visit but I did not have enough information the first time around.
runeykaThursday 30th Jan 2020, 03:04AM
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I may be able to assist with your research in Tyrone. Tell me what you know about the Daily family from Beragh, and what you want to find out.
Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
This is what I know:
This is my 2nd great-grandfather (Father's mother's side)
FRANCIS PATRICK Daily Sr.
BIRTH 19 JAN 1824 • Berragh Tyrone, Ireland: This information comes from his naturalization and military papers so I know it is correct. He fought in several major battles of the US Civil War. He had cunsumption and was released from duty. He died several months later.
DEATH 04 DEC 1864 • Cambridge, Middlesex, Massachusetts, USA
His brother was Michael Daily born in 1832 (I have conflicting dates for birth) in Drumnakilly
BIRTH Abt. 1787 • Kildress, Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland. I know the name is correct but the place and date may not be. I found this in Brittish military records so it may be the wrong John Daily.
DEATH UNKNOWN • Cambridge, Middlesex County, Massachusetts, USA
MARY McGurvie I assume from the same area.
DEATH UNKNOWN • Massachusetts
The family emmigrated in 1852.
I would like to know if there is a way to verify what I know of the parents. is it possible to find any other information on them. Is it possible to go back any further? I know the records are scarce this far back.
And of course, are there any descendants still livng in the area.
We have no set itinerary for our trip yet. It would certainly be fun to visit the area.
Statutory birth registration didn’t start I Ireland till 1864. Prior to that you have to rely on church records. I assume the family was Roman Catholic. The majority of Daly/Daily/Dailey households in the 1901 Irish census of Tyrone were RC, but they weren’t all so it’s important to know. Otherwise you may be looking for the wrong records. There were a total of 628 people of that name in the county then.
Beragh is in the civil parish of Clogherny (RC parish of Ballintacker). Drumnakilly is in the parish of Termonmaguirk (RC parish of Termonmacguirk). The two are immediately beside each other and, unusually, part of Cloghenry is in the middle of Termonmaguirk. There’s a map here which shows the relationships:
So the two are close together.
Termonmacguirk’s RC records start in 1834 and Ballintacker in 1832, so both are too late for someone born in 1824. The RC parish records are on-line free on the National Library site:
There were 10 Daly/Daily/Daley households in Drumnakilly in 1901 (out of a total of 57 houses):
They were all farmers or cottiers (small farmers). Some of them will likely be related to each other. Ignore the variations in spelling. Accurate spelling was not something that troubled the average person in Ireland in the 1800s and early 1900s and it varies all the time, often according to the whim of the person recording the information. Much of the population then wasn’t very literate and often neither knew nor cared how their named was spelled in church or other records.
The tithe applotment records were compiled over a period of years in the 1820s and 1830s. They list people with land (the tithe was a tax on land). The records for Termonmaguirk were compiled in 1825. Drumnakilly was spelled Drumnakillagh in those records, and Daily etc was spelled in various different ways including Dawley. There look to have been 4 Dawley (Daily) farms in Drumnakilly then.
Just 1 Daley farm in Clogherny parish. He was Nale (ie Neil) in Clogherny Slave townland. (Clogherney Slave is from the Irish meaning stony place. Nothing to do with slavery). No Daley in Beragh itself. That doesn’t mean your family don’t come from Beragh, merely that they probably didn’t have any significant quantity of land. So like much of the population they were probably labourers/weavers or in other trades that didn’t involve owning or renting a farm. (Most people in rural areas would have a few perches to grow potatoes but that wasn’t significant enough to make it into the tithes). A perch is a one hundred and sixtieth part of an acre.
If there’s no sign of the family in the parish records (eg later children born after the records begin) there’s probably not much that can be done by way of tracing them, apart from looking for gravestones. RC churches didn’t keep burial records. Farmers were a bit better off than the rest of the population and often had gravestones. Most labourers were buried without one. Statutory death registration didn’t start till 1864 so I would think John Daily born 1787, and his wife were probably dead before that.
The surname McGurvie isn’t common, but I did notice 2 McGarveys in Termonmaguirk’s tithes. So that might be the name. There were still some McGarveys farming in Torsallagh in 1901:
A problem you face in tracing living descendants of someone who left Ireland in the 1840s or 1850s, especially with a common name like Daily, is that the average family here probably only knows their ancestry back about 3 generations, so perhaps to around 1900. Most wouldn’t know what ancestors they had born in 1787 or 1824. You’ll have to hope to get lucky and find a family that knows a bit more.
Beragh is easy enough to find so I won’t both with any directions. If you are looking for Drumnakilly or Torsallagh/Tursallgh, then it’s on the B4 road between Omagh and Carrickmore. There’s a village and then that’s surrounded by 1352 acres of land all of which forms part of the townland. Tursallagh is much smaller. The centre is at the intersection of the Tursallagh and Maginn Roads, a few miles eats of Sixmilecross.
Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
My apologies for taking so long to respond. Been a very busy month for me. I suspected that I was near the end of the line but you give me a few more leads to follow. The family was indeed RC. There are several priests and even a bishop or two among my Daily cousins still residing in the Boston area. I also suspected that John was a younger son that did not inherit if the family were ever land owners.
I will follow up with your suggestions and see what turns up. I would imagine though that as much fun as it would be to go back further, the family had pretty much always lived in the area and that will suffice.
Thank you so much for your time. After years of searching it is very much appreciated.
I have no direct interest in the subject matter of this thread - but I want to acknowledge and thank you for the friendly helpfulness of your response to Kathleen. Obviously it took some time to dig out the information you supplied - and your overall tone is one of sincere "helpfulness".
Just shows the power of message boards like this and the friendly people on the platform. Inspiring.
Thanks for your support.
Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘