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My GGGrandfather George trained in the Kildare Place Model School in 1827 and first became a schoolteacher at Fenagh, Leitrim, in August 1827.  He married Catherine Veitch, who had also trained at Kildare Place (1825 or 1825) and her first parish school was at Ballyconnell. They must have married between 1827 and 1831, because their son John De Winter was born about 1831, their daughter Elizabeth about 1832, my Great Grandmother Rebecca about 1834, all in Co. Cavan. In 1836 George gave an affidavit  which was part of a complaint written by the C.of I Rector of Killeshandra, Cavan, re an injustice to a Methodist convert cleric ( www.irelandoldnews.com/Other/1836/SEP.html ).  

A daughter Emily Augusta was baptised at Kilmore, Co. Armagh, in 1840 and a son George aged 4 was buried there in 1847.

George taught at Diamond Grange, near Kilmore, in a school run by the Cope Family of Loughall, and was involved with the Sunday School there. ( www.irelandoldnews.com/Armagh/1845/18450916.html )

The couple moved round the country side through their life, teaching and being involved in churches and Sunday Schools.

If anyone has any idea of the parentage of George and Catherine, when and where they were born and when and where they married, or details about the baptisms of their children I would be delighted to know. Or anything else, also.

JEJIrishLass

Sunday 22nd Jan 2017, 07:27AM

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  • Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

    You might find it useful to look up some of the post 1831 Reports of the Commissioners of National Education to see if they mention George or his wife. Some do name teachers but they do take a bit of time to go though and all the better if you have good internet access and a large screen to view them. They are available for free HERE.

    Lewis Topographical 1837 also mentions schools and might make reference to those areas in this free resource too, available HERE

    I haven't had much luck locating information about the family but think that this Census 1901 entry might be for Elizabeth. Her birthplace is listed as Co. Cavan and she was unmarried. By that time she is living in a first class house, the property of her niece Catherine Glass. Does this name ring any bells for you? 

    Best wishes

    Clare Doyle

    Ireland XO

     

     

    Clare Doyle

    Wednesday 25th Jan 2017, 11:26AM
  • Thanks for the two hints, Clare. I may eventually follow those up. I've seen some of them before, but yes they are long and tedious. (Right now I'm looking up newspaper references on findmypast.ie. I have learnt a lot about what George (and another daughter Louisa) were doing in Co. Down at the end of the 1850s and early-to-mid 1860s. Obviously there must be more info available re his earlier career, though, somewhere — as well as his wife Catherine et al.

    Yes. That Elizabeth was my GGAunt. She ran a Registry for employees in the 1890s. The Glass women were her nieces. It is not surprising that the house was a 'first class house', as their father John Glass was a linen merchant. I believe Elizabeth stayed with her parents in their old age (mo. died in 1880 and fa. in 1885) and then set up business in Belfast. It was she who paid for her parents' and brothers' grave at Christ Church Delgany where they had retired to.

    By the way, another set of my father's ancestors were Doyles. Andrew Doyle (baptised at St. Anne's Dublin, but converted to Protestant when he married a Huguenot named Sophia Isabella Norris) and his brother James (parents Bartholomew Doyle and Dridget Nugent) came to Australia from Dublin on the Rolla. In 1797 they had first been said to have had the wherewithal to print counterfeit notes for the Bank of Ireland. (They had been cloth printers.) They each had the right to bring their wives and families to Oz, and Andrew's wife did make it with the children to the ship on time. When Andrew got here he was employed 5 days per week by Governor King to draw the flora and fauna of the region, for King to send to Sir Joseph Banks. The rest of the time he was bonded to work for his wife on the land granted to her as a free citizen. Within the year Andrew was emancipated and moved up country and thrived in farming and so have many of his family ever since. My father's mother was one of the line. 

    Cheers,

    Liz

     

     

    JEJIrishLass

    Thursday 26th Jan 2017, 04:34AM

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