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Lawrence G. Ryan, b. 1843, Ballykinlalee, Co. Tipperary, IE.
Emigrated to US ca.1866, naturalized 1876. Settled in Chicago, IL. married Mary Byrne (Burns) of Dublin, July 20,1879. Employed by City of Chicago Water Department. Retired 1914 at 71. Died 1944. Citing: Family records.
Baptism: "Ballinahinch, Newport, Co. Tipp, Ireland, September 16, 1935. Laurence Ryan son of John Ryan and Mary Gleeson was baptized June 29 1843 in Ballinahinch Catholic Church. Signed by Laurence Ryan PP". Citing: Family document, includes seal.
Obituary: 26th January 1944: Lawrence G. Ryan, 101, Ex-City Employee, Dies ... native of County Tipperary, Ireland, ... came to Chicago about 70 years ago. Beloved husband ... late Mary [nee Byrne] Citing: Chicago Tribune Record Number: 19440126ob013/19440126dn091
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| Date of Birth | 1st Jun 1843 | VIEW SOURCE |
| Date of Death | 25th Jan 1944 (circa) | VIEW SOURCE |
| Father (First Name/s and Surname) | John Ryan of Ballykinlalee, County TIpperary, IE | VIEW SOURCE |
| Mother (First Name/s and Maiden) | Mary Gleeson, born County Tipperary, IE | VIEW SOURCE |
| Place & Date of Baptism | June 29, 1843 in Ballinahinch Catholic Church | VIEW SOURCE |
| Names of Children | John E. (1880-1949), William A (1882-1955), Lawrence G. Jr. (1884-1953), James J. (1887-1976), Mae A. [King] (1891-1967), Elizabeth Ryan (1892-1904), Florence [Doyle] (1894-1960), T. Harry Ryan (1897-1989), Citing: Family records. | VIEW SOURCE |
| Place of Death | Died January 25, 1944, Chicago, Illinois, USA Interment: Mt. Carmel Cemetery, 1400 S Wolf Rd., Hillside, Cook County, Illinois, United States Citing: Family records. | VIEW SOURCE |
| Townland born | Ballykinlalee | |
| Names of Siblings | Patrick Ryan (b. 1837), Timothy Ryan (b. 1838), Patrick Ryan (b. 1839), Margaret Ryan (b. 1844) and Owen Ryan (b.1845) | |
| Spouse (First Name/s and Maiden/Surname) | Mary Byrne (Burn) | VIEW SOURCE |
| Place & Date of Marriage | Chicago, Cook County, Illinois, United States, July m. 20 July 1879 | VIEW SOURCE |
My Flannery's were born just about the same time (late 1830s-mid 1840s) and immigrated to Chicago in the 1860's. I have located records for them that list Ryan's and Gleeson's as witnesses and have been trying to establish a connection between the families.
Erin
Chicago, Illinois
Hi Erin,
I just saw this so apologize for any delay. That is very interesting, we should discuss this further and see if it unlocks any doors for either of us. I actually hit a brick wall at Laurence's parents since there were numerous John Ryans (his father) and Mary Gleeson's (his mother) that were married during the same time period.
Check Laurence on Find-a-Grave to see a few more details. On FAG, it's spelled Lawrence, although it was originally Laurence.
When you get to his page, scroll down to the bottom and click on my name Jamee Ryan Carlin. It will take you to my profile page which will give you my email address.
BTW, I live just north of Rodger's Park.
Looking forward to hearing from you,
Jamee
Here is the marriage record for Laurence's parents:
Date of Marriage: 07-Feb-1836
Parish / District: NEWPORT County: Co. Tipperary
Husband Wife
Name: John Ryan Mary Gleeson
Address: Not Recorded Not Recorded
Denomination: Roman Catholic Roman Catholic
Occupation:
Age:
Status:
Husband's Father Wife's Father
Name:
Address:
Denomination:
Occupation:
Husband's Mother Wife's Mother
Name:
Address:
Denomination:
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Witness 1 Witness 2
Name: Tim Ryan Pk Hogan
Address:
Notes:
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He could be an uncle of mine. My grt grt grandfather, Laurence Ryan, was b. 1816 of William Ryan, Tipperary, and Catherine Burke, Limerick. Cannot seem to find my people!
I was able to track my grandfather and great-grandfather to the town of Killoscully which is in the same parish,with the help of Ireland XO. As it turns out, the churchyard in Killoscully is full of Ryans and Gleesons. My great grandfather Michael Gleeson was married to a Mary Ryan. You might want to look around Killoscully. The one and only pub in town is called Ryan’s.
The Killoskully headstones on line at Tipperary studies digitisation project.
I am very in the Laurence Ryan as my GGGF was Laurence Ryan from Shanaclune Cappamore.
All I have is his name on the Tithes and Griffiths..
Christina.
Hi Patricia, Thank you, I do have a record of his parent's marriage. That much at least I have. I just can't get further back. I've recently found some more info to explore but it will be a while before I can actually get to it.
Beth, do you know where in Tipperary your Laurence was born?
Gleason, That is very close (location) and a goood possiblity to explore. Thank you. I am also looking at a possible Timothy Gleeson b. ca. 1820 (Shalee) and Catherine Ryan match and one other Gleeson-Ryan match. Thanks also for mentioning the churcyard. I am going to check the digitized records.
Good luck. I was able, with the help of the XO community to find the headstone my GF erected in memory of his parents after he left Ireland and settled in Buffalo, NY. He was from Coulreagh and his mom was from lower Shallee.
Replying to Jamee: I think in Cappawhite parish. He worked for the Imperial Slate Mines and left from Cobh abt. 1843, His father was William, mother Catherine Burke,
RE: John Ryan m Mary Gleeson. Searching for ancestors. Here is family tree from Canada..Descendants of John Ryan
John Ryan born 1818 in Ballinahinch, Tipperary County Ireland and died Feb 4, 1888 in Ramsey Township, Lanark County, Ontario Canada. He married Mary Gleeson born 1828 Ballinahinch Tipperary County Ireland and died in 1899 Ramsey Township Lanark County Ontario Canada
Children of John and Mary Ryan
i. Michael Ryan b. 1859
ii. John Ryan
iii. Julia Ryan
iv. Bridget Ryan
v. Margaret Ryan
vi. Mary Ryan
vii. Ann Ryan
viii. Lawrence Ryan -
ix. William Ryan
x. Patrick Ryan
Hi Bryan,
When did your Ryans emigrate? Do you know what year they married and was it in Tipperary?
My Ryans also have a John Ryan and Mary Gleeson (my great-great-great grandparents). As follows:
John Ryan and Mary Gleeson married 7 Feb 1836, Newport (date of births/deaths to be verified)
Their Children, all baptised in Ballinahinch/Newport (Ballinahinch Catholic Church):
Patrick Ryan (1837-1838/1839)
Timothy Ryan (1838-1917)
Patrick Ryan (1839-deceased)
Laurence Ryan (1843-1944): My great-great grandfather
Margaret Ryan (1844-deceased)
Owen Ryan (1845-d1934, date of death to be verified)
There may have been a still born between 1940-1942, not sure.
Timothy, Laurence and Owen all emigrated to the United States and ended up in Chicago, IL. The 1880 Census shows Timothy and Owen with a brother, Tommy. This was about a year after Laurence Ryan married Mary Byrnes (m. 1870) in Chicago.
I am not sure who Tommy is unless he hasn't been indexed yet or something happened to his record. He might have been born in that gap between 1940-1942 shown above (Between Patrick and Laurence). Or he might haveeven been a half brother or a cousin that thay just told the census taker was a brother. All kins of possibilities!
Owen is the only record that states an address in addition to a parish and that is Ballykinlalee/Ballykinlelee refered to as Ballykinalee now-a-days.
Bryan, Laurence and Mary married in 1879, not 1870. Typo.
I put in post already, as my GGGF was Laurence/Lawrence Ryan Vora from Shanaclune Cappamore.
He owned land there in the Tithes with brother Patrick.
I do not know his wife's name because records for Cappamore did not start until 1844.
Do you have DNA done and are you on GEDmatch.
Christina.
Thanks for the feedback...
I am not sure when John Ryan and Mary Gleeson arrived in Canada as I am still researching
William Ryan shown in our tree is my GG grandfather and he married Mary "Minnie" Devine
Here is obit for William:
Death announcement - A son of the late John Ryan and his wife, formerly Mary Gleeson, he was born near Almonte. Forty‑five years ago he married Miss Mary Devine, who survives with five sons, Rev. A. P. Ryan of Broadview, Sask.; John, Andrew, William, Raymond of Pakenham Township, and four daughters, Mrs. James Lunney of Pakenham; Rev. Sister Mary William of Lestock, Sask.; Rev. Sister St. Clare, Superior of St. Mary’s School, Ottawa; and Rev. Sister St. Rita of the Immaculate College, Ottawa. Surviving, also, are one brother, Michael Ryan of Almonte, and three sisters, Miss Julia Ryan of Ottawa; Mrs. M. Hodgins of Toronto and Mrs. John O’Neil of Kinburn. Rev. John O’Neil and Rev. Alphonsus O’Neil, both of Ottawa, and L. J. Hodgins of Toronto, are among the surviving nephews, while nieces include Rev. Sisters Leonard and Delphine, both of Toronto, and Rev. Sister Julitta of Almonte.
DNA test is my next step!
Christina,
I am not sure who you are directing your question to?
Thanks,
Hi again James.
I am directing question at anyone who thinks there might be a link.
Laurence/Lawrence scarce name.
Christina.
My Laurence Ryan was never called by anything else. I followed him to Syracuse NY abt 1844, but before that.....William, his father never left a clue!
