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Alexander McDOWELL (ca. 1730-1799)  was the father of a family that arrived in South Carolina in the American Colonies in 1766 or 1767.

1. To be allowed to receive free land in S. Carolina after 1761 all Irish had to be Protestant, so I know he was not Catholic.

2. The passenger list of whichever ship he was on has not been posted on the internet, but I can get a list of possible ships from a South Carolina website, if that will help.

3. The children born in Ireland: Andrew (ca 1755-1825) died in Tennessee, USA. 

James (ca 1755-1813) died in South Carolina

Hugh (ca 1760-1801) died in South Carolina

William (ca. 1760-1835) died in South Carolina

Elizabeth (ca 1760-1820) died in South Carolina

Born in So. Carolina: Alexander and Smith both born 1770's.

Are there any ways I could check to see where they came from in Ireland? Where there Protestants in Ulster in the 1700's? Where they originally from Scotland? Thank you, Sharon

laizure7

Thursday 17th Oct 2013, 07:42AM

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  • Ireland, and in particular Ulster, was heavily settled by people from Scotland, England and Wales in the 1600s. Most of those were Protestants, though there were some RC settlers too. Those from England and Wales tended to be identifiable later because they were members of the Church of Ireland; those from Scotland were mostly Presbyterian. The settlement was known as the plantation of Ulster. Here?s a link that tells you a bit about the plantation of Ulster.

    http://www.ulsternationalist.freeservers.com/custom2.html

    The estimates vary but it is reckoned that in the 100 years to 1700, about 100,000 Scots settled in Ireland (representing about 10% of the entire population of Scotland at the time). Throughout the 1700s, about a half their descendants ie another 100,000 people left Ireland and went to the USA and what is now Canada.

    So to answer your question about whether there were Protestants in Ulster in the 1700s, the answer is yes. In fact they formed the majority of the population.

    Tracing relatives who emigrated in the 1700s is very difficult indeed. Very few churches have records that go back that far, and there are precious few other records form the period either.

    Using this link, you will see that in the mid 1800s, the name McDowell was most commonly found in Cos Antrim & Down. That would be highly indicative of Scottish origins, as those 2 counties were the most heavily populated by Scots and because the name McDowell is Scottish. If your family was also Presbyterian (as I strongly suspect they were) then you have 3 strands of proof of Scottish origins. There are no records of where the Scots settlers came from (save for a few major landowners) and so finding out exactly where in Scotland they originated is not normally possible. In general the majority of Scots settlers came from the South West of Scotland and around Edinburgh and the Scottish borders. That?s about as far as you can usually say.

     

    http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/surname/

    Ahoghill Antrim

    Thursday 17th Oct 2013, 02:40PM
  • Thank you. The information about Ulster Scots is what I expected, but you gave me more detail.

    What is wonderful are the two links in your message. I have passed a very good morning tooling around the surnames on Irish Times.com looking for family.

    Best Regards,

    Sharon

    laizure7

    Thursday 17th Oct 2013, 08:24PM
  • Sharon,

    Delighted to help. I don?t think I can find your family because, as I have already explained, the records probably don?t exist. However if you should need any more general background information about movement between Scotland and Ulster, let me know. Likewise if you ever decide to visit Ireland and need local information, ask me. Happy to give you suggestions on what to do and where to go.

    Scotland is just 20 miles from Cos Antrim & Down and is clearly visible on most days. The cultural links between the two places are also very strong. Some people in Cos Antrim and Down still speak with an accent that is identifiable with the Scottish accent and are very proud of their heritage. The Ulster Scots Agency exists to promote that. That seems to be your own heritage. You might be interested: http://www.ulsterscotsagency.com/

     

    Elwyn

    Ahoghill Antrim

    Thursday 17th Oct 2013, 08:52PM
  • Dear Elwyn,

    Thank you for the new link and the information. I have a Robert Love ca 1745.; Alexander McDowell ca 1730; and a Robert Taylor ca. 1815; all born in Ireland. So I guess I do have a good reason to visit Ulster.

    The Caughells look like the only family that may be from Leinster. 

    Where would you suggest that I visit in Ulster?

     

    Sharon

    laizure7

    Friday 18th Oct 2013, 09:09PM
  • Well I suppose if your ancestors came from Co Antrim or Down, then the thing to do would be to have a good look at them. Typical things to see are:

     

    • A drive through the Mountains of Mourne in Co Down
    • Visit Downpatrick to see where St Patrick is buried (allegedly)
    • Mount Stewart stately home near Newtownards (home of the Marquess of Londonderry) or Castle Ward at Strangford. (Both in Co Down).
    • Titanic Exhibition in Belfast docks
    • Open top Bus tour of Belfast (bring umbrella)
    • Crown Bar in Belfast (200 years old, gas lit. Very popular with visitors)
    • Traditional Irish singing and fiddly-dee music in Fibber Magee?s bar (next to the Crown). Most nights from 9pm onwards.
    • If you like good seafood, go to the Mourne Seafood Bar in Belfast. (Booking pretty well essential in the evenings but you can get in at lunchtime more easily).
    • Tour of Crumlin Rd Jail in Belfast. (Includes the execution cell and an opportunity to lie in the coffin).
    • Giant?s Causeway, Co Antrim (busiest tourist attraction in Ireland).
    • Carrick a Rede Rope Bridge Co Antrim (a few miles from the Giants Causeway)
    • Dunluce Castle (Scottish baronial castle on a cliff - former home of the Earls of Antrim till part of it fell into the sea during dinner one night). Again a couple of miles from the Giants Causeway
    • Bushmills Distillery (a couple of miles from Giants Causeway)
    • A drive along the coastal round from Giant?s Causeway to the Glens of Antrim (via Torr Head minor road). Great views across to Scotland and to Rathlin Island. Stop in Cushendun (pretty harbour village) for a drink in Molly McBride?s bar.
    • Day trip to Rathlin Island to view the bird colonies, seals etc (best in Apr ? Jun). 20 minute crossing time if you get the fast ferry. 40 on the slow one.
    • Carrickfergus Castle. Carrickfergus was the original capital of Ulster before Belfast. The castle is 600 years old. It was a military base until recently and is intact.
    • Ulster ? American Folkpark in Co Tyrone. Everything for the American or Canadian ancestor hunter.
    • US presidents Homesteads. (US Presidents whose ancestors came from Northern Ireland are: Andrew Jackson, James Knox Polk, James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, Ulysses Simpson Grant, Chester Alan Arthur, William McKinley, Woodrow Wilson, Benjamin Harrison & Grover Cleveland.) Many of their homesteads are now tourist attractions.
    • Elsewhere, Londonderry/Derry is well worth a days visit. Walk round the city walls (the only completely intact set of walls in any city in Europe). See the guns used at the siege of Derry. See St Columbs Cathedral. Visit the Bogside and see the murals. Learns about the more recent conflict in the area between Protestants and Catholics. Buy some corny souvenirs in the many tourist shops. In the town. It?s very compact and easily covered on foot. Walk over the peace bridge from one side of the river to the other. If using public transport, take the train to Derry as it goes along the coast between Coleraine and Derry and it?s a great view. One of the most scenic train journeys in Europe. (Or so they say).

     

     

    Not sure how much time you have but let me know if you would like some more suggestions.

     

     

    Elwyn

    Ahoghill Antrim

    Sunday 20th Oct 2013, 05:45PM
  • Dear Elwyn,

    Now I want to go right away! I didn't know there were so many things to do near Giant's Causeway. It sounds like that would be a good place to stay for a few nights. 

    Anything that involves seeing beautiful shoreline or mountains gets my vote. We live in a warm flat area with a distant, but pretty. view of the mountains. My husband loves seafood, and I like fish.

    I definitely would love to see Coleraine. My ancestor Robert Love settled down in a little township called Coleraine near Bedford, Pennsylvania about 1780. Just maybe he came from there. Derry sounds lovely, plus my people might have sailed out of there. Lastly, I would like to spend a couple nights in Donegal, just to see the west side of Ireland. Plus I love the song "Homes of Donegal".

    Again, thank you. I guess the way to express my appreciation is to send a donation to IrelandXO. I have been getting some great help about my Caughell's, also--who mayhave picked an Irish spelling for their Dutch name once they settled across the Atlantic. I will find some Irish blood in me somewhere; I have enjoyed the music since I was 15.

    God bless,

    Sharon

     

    laizure7

    Sunday 20th Oct 2013, 11:50PM
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    I have the information from Smith McDowell down son of Alexander McDowell 1733-1799 died in South Carolina. 
    Smith McDowell birth South Carolina- son   - John D McDowell death Alabama, son  William " Nip" McDowell, born and death Alabama, daughter Julia McDowell, Alabama, son Alex McDowell Sr born out of wedlock, Alabama, son Alex/Alec McDowell, Jr. 1933 - Alabama  and me son Larry Alec McDowell -- Alabama, USA

    I need from Alexander McDowell 1733-1799 parents and grandparents as far as you got. 
     

     

     

     

    McDowellUSA

    Sunday 12th Dec 2021, 05:26AM

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