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Hello,

    My Irish Immigrant Ancestor was Robert E Gibboney (1810-1867) who was born Dec 10, 1810 in Drumnakilly, Co Tyrone, to Thomas Gibboney and Margaret Kyle. They came through the port of New York, circa 1815, and settled in Wytheville, Virginia, where Robert became prominent during the American Civil War. Robert was a CSA Prices Commissioner during the ACW, and was a Delegate to the Virginia Assembly after the war. Margaret Kyle's family was believed to be Anglican who came over from Scotland. Little is known of the Gibboney's in Ireland except that the surname was spelled variously as Gibbony, Gibney and so on. I could use some help piecing together a family tree, gathering sources, locating descendants and finding any stories, there my be of the Gibboney's in Co Tyrone or elsewhere in Ireland, etc.; This may be a case where cluster research is necessary.

   Thanks for any assistance,

                                      Brian 

   

   

Brian Paul Kaess

Sunday 7th Apr 2024, 09:03PM

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  • There were five heads of household named Gibney in Griffith's Valuation of Tyrone in 1851.  Note one was in Drumnakilly.  Even though your direct ancestor had emigrated, this may have been a relative.

    Source Surname        First Name      Townland       Parish  County           

    Griffith Gibney                Alexander  Attaghmore    Cappagh         Co. Tyrone     

    Griffith            Gibney           Hugh   Aghnagreggan Termonmaguirk          Co. Tyrone     

    Griffith            Gibney           James  Drumduff        Termonmaguirk          Co. Tyrone     

    Griffith            Gibney           John    Drumnakilly    Termonmaguirk          Co. Tyrone     

    Griffith            Gibney           Joseph Aghnagreggan Termonmaguirk          Co. Tyrone

    Patricia

    Sunday 7th Apr 2024, 09:37PM
  • There were also Kyles in Drumnakilly in 1851 in Griffith's:

    Griffith            Kyle     James  Drumnakilly    Termonmaguirk          Co. Tyrone

    Griffith            Kyle     John    Drumnakilly    Termonmaguirk          Co. Tyrone     

    Griffith            Kyle     John    Drumnakilly    Termonmaguirk          Co. Tyrone

    Griffith            Kyle     Robert Drumnakilly    Termonmaguirk          Co. Tyrone

    Patricia

    Sunday 7th Apr 2024, 09:40PM
  • Drumnakilly is in the civil parish of Termonmaguirk. The tithe applotment records for that parish in 1825 list John & William Gibney both with farms in Drumnakillagh (Drumnakilly). Presumably they are related to your family who left in 1815.

    https://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/tyrone/tithe-applotment-books/parish-of-termonmaguirk.php

    1901 census for Drumankilly has just one Gibney with a small farm:

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Drumnakilly/Dru…

    Note that she was Church of Ireland (COI) which fits with your understanding of your family’s denomination.

    There are 4 churches in Termonmaguirk COI but unfortunately none has any records for the period you need (2 lost their early records in the 1922 fire in Dublin), so tracing baptisms for your family may not be possible.

    Here are 2 events which seem likely to relate to your family:

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1895/05915/4679271.pdf

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1895/10544/5840694.pdf

    Above marriage suggests the Gibney family used Sixmilecross COI. It has records from 1836 onwards. Too late for your immediate family but might be helpful if tracing later generations who remained in Ireland. Copy of those records are held in PRONI in Belfast.

    Administration (with the Will) of the personal estate of John Gibney late of Drumnakilly County Tyrone Farmer who died 1 November 1895 granted at Londonderry to Esther Gibney of Drumnakilly Spinster the Residuary Legatee

    Above will is on-line on the PRONI wills site. Basically he left his estate to his sister Esther.

    Esther in 1911:

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Drumnakilly/Drumnakilly/844779/

    Esther’s death in 1912:

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1912/05351/4490888.pdf

    Alexandra Menagh is shown as tenant in Drumnakilly after Esther’s death, in the PRONI Valuation Revision records. (6 and a half acres).

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Sunday 7th Apr 2024, 09:56PM
  • There were five siblings of Robert E Gibboney who were also born in Ireland: Elizabeth 'Betsy', Annie Dow, Jane Kyle, David Kyle, and William. I just don't have any records on them. The Haller-Gibboney Rock House Museum in Wytheville, Virginia, may have more, but I am unable to go there at this time. Also, there was an additional brother James Madison Gibboney born in 1817 in America. 

       In addition, The Gibney surname rings a bell, when I saw the Griffith's Valuation.info. I believe the Gibney's may have been a branch that broke off the Gibboney's somewhere and emigrated to Canada. I recall them somehow being related to my Gibboney's through a My Heritage Family tree. Needs more work. 

        Brian 

    Brian Paul Kaess

    Sunday 7th Apr 2024, 09:59PM
  • Brian,

    You have told us that your family came from Drumnakilly. It’s not a big place. 1352 acres. In the 1901 census there were 57 homes there and a total population of 274 people. Just 1 Gibney household. Therefore almost certain to be related to your family, I think.

    Do not get hung up on the precise spelling of the family name. In Ireland in the 1800s no-one bothered about spelling. Many folk were barely literate but even when they were more skilled, exact spelling was not something that bothered them at all. It changed all the time, often at the whim of the person recording the information. Gibney and Gibboney etc are all the same name.

    Here are 2 examples of spelling varying within the same family in the same Irish census:

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Sharvogues/Drumsough/920148/

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1851/Antrim/Upper_Glenarm/Carncastle/Four_Score_Acre/5/

    In 1899, the Rev Smith reviewed the early records of Antrim 1st Presbyterian church (covering the years 1674 to c 1736). He noted: “Even the same word is not always spelled alike by the same hand. Indeed spelling with most of the recording officials (and they must have been fairly numerous) was a matter of the most sublime indifference. The name William, for instance, is spelled 3 different ways in as many lines; while Donegore, a neighbouring parish, is spelled 10 different ways; but these extend over a good number of years. Many families names are spelled phonetically, while others are given in the most round-about fashion.”

    The idea of a specific “correct” spelling is very much a 20th century concept. In the 1800s and earlier, no-one bothered. So expect the spelling Gibboney to vary in Irish records That’s the norm here. (Spelling still varies here even today).

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Sunday 7th Apr 2024, 10:29PM
  • Two questions for Elwyn. Is there any chance to add a link for the 1895 or so will for John Gibney, which you said was at the Proni site? Also, any idea of the name or address of the single Gibney Family that still lives in Drumnakilly, Ireland? 
       Thank you for your wonderful asstance with the previous posts.
       Brian 

    Brian Paul Kaess

    Sunday 7th Apr 2024, 10:57PM
  • Here’s a link to the PRONI website. Follow the links for wills.

    https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/campaigns/public-record-office-northern-ireland-proni

    The Valuation Revision records (on the same PRONI website) list John Gibney (shown as Gibbons) on plot 40 in Drumnakilly (6.5 acres). You can view that on the maps attached to Griffiths Valuation. It’s just a couple of hundred yards from Drumnakilly Church of Ireland. (It has a graveyard so there might be family graves there). Postcode is BT79 0JY.

    The farm is on the modern Cairn Rd. I have looked at a satellite image and there are a couple of cars parked there so it looks as though there is still a house on the site. I don’t know the precise address today. (Not sure how you would find that out other than to go there). It looks to me as though the last two Gibneys living in Drumnakilly were a brother and sister who were both unmarried. After the death of the last one in 1912 the farm was taken over by the Managh/Menagh family, who lived close by presumably because the Gibneys had no close relations left in Ireland. (And/or perhaps the Menaghs were related to the Gibney by some earlier marriage).

    https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=name…

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Monday 8th Apr 2024, 07:58AM
  • Thank you for the previous excellent information. Robert Gibboney had a Brother Maj. William Gibboney (1815-1901) CSA. He had a Granddaughter Katherine Goering Peery Gibboney (1871-1940) who married William Henry Campbell (1869-1912) on Dec 18 1895 in Wytheville, Virginia. Attached is an image for a June 21, 1866 Irish Civil Marriage Record from Drumnakilly for a Jane Gibboney & William Campbell. Quite a surname coincidence! Can anyone retrace those steps and see if they can find a link for these two couples? This might show there was still social 'commerce' between the Old World and New World Irish. 

         Brian 

    Brian Paul Kaess

    Monday 8th Apr 2024, 03:16PM

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