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I need an opinion regarding the following: my ancestor, Jeremiah Clifford (1829) married, raised his family, and died in Shanaknock, Tralee, Kerry according to the records. I have not found any birth record for him in Tralee. There is one for a person with the same name born in Killeentierna with a father also named Jeremiah. Is it probable that Killeentierna is where he was from or is it too far a distance for that time in history for him to be from there? I cannot find a Kerry genealogy center to contact for them to help with research.....anyone know if one exists?




Thursday 16th Dec 2021, 12:21AM

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  • Carolyn:

    I wrote a reply earlier today and it appears that there was a problem with posting my comments.

    Shanaknock is in O'Brennan civil parish and the RC parish would be Ballymacelligot. Unfortunately, baptismal records for that parish start in 1868. The 1852 Griffiths Valuation head of household listing for O'Brennan civil parish shows a Jeremiah Clifford in Shanaknock townland.   

    My belief is that this record was likely for the father rather than the 1829 Jeremiah which would indicate to me that the 1829 Jeremiah was not from Killeentierna parish but O'Brennan parish and the RC parish of Ballymacelligot. 

    I checked the Irish Family History Foundation home page and found this info.

    The Irish Family History Foundation has been the coordinating body for a network of county genealogy centres and family history societies for over thirty years. The sources available vary for each county so please check our Irish Online Sources for details of what is available on the website.

    However, when i looked for an address for a Kerry genealogy center, no address came up so I don't believe there is a center. You may want to e-mail the IFHF 

      Irish Family History Foundation

    Let me know if you have questions.

    Roger McDonnell

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 16th Dec 2021, 11:42PM
  • Thanks Roger for confirming what I suspected...that Jeremiah could not be from Kileentierna. I appreciate the Griffith's link. I will check it out.

    I already contacted the RootsIreland site, and they told me that they do not have a Kerry center....too bad!





    Friday 17th Dec 2021, 04:55PM
  • Roger,

    Just curious why you say the Griffith's valuation if for the father, Jeremiah and not the son Jeremiah (abt. 1829)? Is it because he would be too young to rent land? I'm still learning 

    about these things.

    Interesting to note in that record, there is a Johanna Ready also as a tenant in Shanaknock, and Jeremiah, the son, married a Johanna Reidy (also seen in the records as O'Reidy).

    The Irish sure threw around the O's...sometimes there, sometimes not in records and thru the generations....I see it all the time in my research. My maiden name is O'Connor, and

    these days, no one would consider dropping the "O"! :)







    Friday 17th Dec 2021, 05:13PM
  • Carolyn:

    Yes, the approximate age was my reasoning. The actual survey was likely completed a few years before 1852. Just to be clear, there is no impediment for a 21 year old to be leasing land but not very likely.

    The Mc's and O"s were dropped a lot in the 19th century. O's more than Mc's. Many immigrants restored their family prefix when they came to their new country. The Irish who stayed restored the prefixes in the early 1900s for the most part.


    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Friday 17th Dec 2021, 06:12PM

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