Michael Murphy

Hi Dawn,

Thanks for your message. I hope that someone with some info gets in touch.

It may be difficult to find more information without more specific places of origin in CLare and Cork. Most Irish record sources- church records, land records, census records- are based on specific locations. Until you know a specific location within Ireland, preferably a parish or placename, it may be difficult to do anything more with these records.

Do you have any documentation pertaining to the family that mentions any place names in Clare and Cork at all? This can include wills, marriage/death records,census records, letters, diary entries etc.

There are some places where you can search online, however these websites do not have complete collections:

www.familysearch.org has a huge database of genealogical records including some church records for Ireland.

www.rootsireland.ie have a large collection of Irish Church records, however you have to pay to use this site.

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/ have begun a project to upload Irish church records to their site free of charge. However so far only some counties have been uploaded. Clare has not yet been covered and only some parts of Co. Cork have been added so far.

Sometimes you can use the land records to help tie a person to a specific place. Unfortunately, there were a lot of Cornelius Murphy?s recorded in both the Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38) and Griffith?s Valuation (1848-64)

http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=murphy&firstname=cornelius&county=Cork&parish=&townland=&search=Search

http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&Submit.x=47&Submit.y=2&Submit=Submit&familyname=murphy&firstname=cornelius&baronyname=&countyname=CORK&unionname=&parishname=

Patrick Roach/Roche in Clare was less common:

http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=roche&firstname=patrick&county=Clare&parish=&townland=&search=Search

http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&Submit.x=59&Submit.y=23&Submit=Submit&familyname=roach&firstname=patrick&baronyname=&countyname=CLARE&unionname=&parishname=

http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&Submit.x=56&Submit.y=15&Submit=Submit&familyname=roche&firstname=patrick&baronyname=&countyname=CLARE&unionname=&parishname=

Unfortunately, these land records do not contain any genealogical info so it is impossible to know which if any are relevant to you.

Here are some more general websites that may be helpful:

Some other websites that may be helpful are:

The National Archives of Ireland http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/introduction/

The National Library of Ireland http://www.nli.ie/en/family-history-introduction.aspx

Irish Times: http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/index.htm

Irish Genealogy Tool kit: http://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/

Genealogy Links: http://www.genealogylinks.net/uk/ireland/index.html

From Ireland: www.from-ireland.net

Clare Library: http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/genealogy/genealog.htm

Cork Past and Preset: www.corkpastandpresent.ie

Failte Romhat: www.failteromhat.com

Remember to post any new information that you find here. The more information you post, the more likely it is that one of our volunteers will be able to advise or assist you. Also include information concerning which sources you may have already used so others may further your search.

Kind regards,

Genealogy Support

Dear Emma,

Thank you so much for your reply to my query, I really appreciate the time and effort that you've been to to help me.   The information that you've given me has certainly shown me many avenues that I can follow.

I wish you all the very best with the research that you do on behalf of people like myself, you all do a great job.   Thank you.

Dawn