MICHAEL MURPHY & MARGARET BRENNON IRELAND to IOWA

Hi Brea

I see you have done a good bit of work already.I saw their  1900 US census returns which lists their children's occupations.I guess you have already seen this but I have the  link to it here just in case.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11106-26475-62?cc=1325221&wc=MMPJ-V77:102711165

There were 202 baptisms/births registered for Michael Murphy 1840 plus or minus 1 year and 27 baptisms for Margaret Brennon(or variations) for 1841.

I followed what I could of Elizabeth as you said children unknow in relation to her 

I see Elizabeth had two children Mathew age 13 and Lawrence age 10  US 1920 census 

here is that link 

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M8B6-6DJ

Mathew married a Louise Helen Goettsch in 1929

They had several children.One of them died last month called Matthew Rimmer.There were three sisters and one brother,His brother Tom of Selma is stil alive as is one sister Helen Earley.

I got this information from the Clinton Herald.There is a lot of information there.

here is the link 

http://clintonherald.com/obituaries/x2039224848/Matthew-J-Rimmer

sorry I have not the time now to do more.Have you found their  (Michael or Mararet }shipping lists or port of arrival?

all the best 

Aine 

Aine,

Well, MY GOODNESS! i simply cant believe i received a reply within a few hours!!  I'm tickeled pink! --does that expression translate?  

Yes, yes, I have found 1900 US census but I had not gotten to do any research yet about Elizabeth (Murphy) Rimmer so much thanks for that lead!

You said that there are 202 Michael Murphy births/baptisms in and around 1841 and 27 for Margaret Brennon--where can i acces that information?  And, no, i do not yet know any shipping lists as i have not known any other family members to be looking for that they would have come with.  Is there a single good and complete source for looking through those?

Any other help with sorting of info would be spectacular but I know I am just one in a long list that is asking for your time.

Are you located in Galway, hence your user name?  

I am located in Chicago but know Ireland to be home and visit every chance I get.  In fact, I was just married there, in Dingle this April.  Brought my family home--many of them for the first time.  We are looking to relocate to Ireland to live out my life long dream in the next year or so.  We are busy overhere navagaiting all the rules and options.  I am very sadly, 1 generation too late to still claim citizenship by descent. 

Geesh, sorry for the ramble.  I'm just so darn thrilled to receive any responce.  

Thank you very very dearly for all your help and time.

warmly,

brea murphy

Hi Brea,

Thanks for the very kind comments.Tickled Pink is know if not common in Ireland so it translates well.

Yes I am living in Galway.I am a volunteer admin of my home parish's Ireland reaching out ,Kilbeacanty,homepage.It is a labour of love.I am not part of the Office staff so I do not have many enquiries.Aine ?i Murchadha  ?i Murchadha is Murphy in Irish .There is also the newer  Murchu. ?i signifies a married woman (N? pronounced Knee would be a single woman ).So you can see the name caught my attention.

My son was in the US on a J1 this summer and spent a few weeks in Chicago and really liked it there.

I have found rootsireland.ie very good.They allow you to search for free but there is a fee to see the documents .That is where I found the 202 Murphys and the Brennon entries.

I am not sure where is best for passenger lists.Ellis Island's records are for later than your dates.These passenger lists can give useful information in narrowing the search for the parish or place of origin.

I have found the church of the latter day saints records good as well.

I notice they have the following regarding William E Murphy.There is some discrepency between the 1900 census and this 1910 census.William's date of birth for one.

Looking at the household you can see all are gone except Margaret.Gaffey.Mrs Margaret Murphy nee(see the irish influence)Brennon is not there in 1910 so I presume she died in the period 1900 -1910 although it is possible she was visiting someone at the time of the census.

here is the link 

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/ML1V-928#

I will keep looking and be in touch.Thanks again for the kind comments 

Aine

Aine,

A Murphy of Galway! Wonderful!  and thank you for the Gaelic breakdown.  I've been thinking about trying to learn it.  We live blocks away from the Irish American Heritage Center here in Chicago and go regularly.  They offer many classes and activites and soon they are to start Gaelic lessons.  Will see how that goes as i grew up primarly in Texas and never could learn even Spanish. ha!

and your son was just here? well, how about that.  Chicago is a beautiful and vast city (but it's no Ireland.!)  Gald to hear he enjoyed it and hoped that he met some of the "friendly" americans.  

I do have that info about the Gaffey's--in fact, i have a document with 98% of the family breakdown.  Do you think it would be ok to post here? or is there some other address i could have you take a look at it from .  Certainly don't want to waste your time but also don't know what is "safe" or smart to post for the wide world to see.  Any advise would be grand.

I have been using primarly ancestory.com (my aunt has a subscription and i piggyback on her accout : ) and of course the morman free site.

Thank you thank you Aine.

Kindly,

brea 

Hi Brea, My name is Mark Murphy  Michael E Murphy is my great grand father his son James is my grand father and his son Jack is my father...Confused? My father is one of 7 childeren James and Evelyn (Lutz) Murphy had. Michael and Margaret were Married in Lyons Iowa north of Clinton Iowa. I have Michael E and Kathryns wedding picture from my father.  I would love to Know Much More. I live in Denver Colorado but grew up in Clinton. All seven childeren are still living. Four still in clinton one in Iowa City One in Arizona one in Tennesse. I know stories of Michael E but not much of Michael Sr. I would love to find out more. I know where Michael's farm in Iowa was and the streets they lived on personally from growing up there. I want to find out where in Ireland also. I remember talking to my grand father and the wexford area seems to come to mind alot..?? I dont know if anything after he came to Iowa will help you but I can tell you what I know.

All my Best

Mark

Hello, Hello Mark! 

I believe we are of the same generation, as Michael E. is also my great-grandfather! I'm grandaughter to Eugean and Thelma Murphy, daughter of Brian and Sherry Murphy.  I too was born in Clinton, 1978,  but left very young and was raised in the south.  However, I had the great predvlidge of spending all of my summers in Clinton until i was 14!  And it was in one of those summers years ago that I met your grandfather James, aka "Jim".  

By any chance did not just make it to the Clinton Murphy reunion this past July at Eagle Point Park?  There were so many Murphys there i had not met before I could have passed you right up!  

I have started a family info sheet that i would love to send along to you to take a look at (and to help me fill in as well), but i would perfer to send it to a private email address if that would be ok with you.  And i would love, love, love to see Michael and Kathryn's wedding picture.  And maybe you could bug your dad for more old stories about Michael and Kathryn. --the one thing i hear time and time again was that Kathryn was an old cranky lady and mad about living in a poor area of Clinton--and it makes me laugh nearly every time i hear it. Ha.

Also of note, loads of us are buried at St. Mary's Cemetery in Clinton and pictures of gravestones can be found easily online.  Michael E. and Kathryn as well as Michael and Margaret are there (again, many more as well)

Please send along an email address for you and i'd love to share all that i have.

Speak soon.

Kindly,

brea.

Hi, I did not make it to Clinton for the reunion but the rest of my family did. I was born in 1966 I knew you grandparents well. We grew up down the block on comanche ave. we had an auto body shop. Murphy's Body Shop. our cousin Tina has hired someone to check into our history more. But have yet to hear any news yet. Btw Aunt Thelma was so nice. I remember her at the pharmacy always so kind and smiling. React me at Mrphmm@aol.com.

Mark

Hi, I did not make it to Clinton for the reunion but the rest of my family did. I was born in 1966 I knew you grandparents well. We grew up down the block on comanche ave. we had an auto body shop. Murphy's Body Shop. our cousin Tina has hired someone to check into our history more. But have yet to hear any news yet. Btw Aunt Thelma was so nice. I remember her at the pharmacy always so kind and smiling. React me at Mrphmm@aol.com.

Mark

Hi everyone,

So I'm going to throw in a little question concerning the Murphys in Lyons, Clinton County, Iowa. My family has a Michael Murphy with his wife, Margaret Leonard, that we know lived in Lyons from about 1855 until his death in December 1900 and her death in 1904. We have verified this through newspaper articles, family information and census records. Our Michael and Margaret are buried at St. Irenaeus Cemetery and we found a GAR grave with Micheal Murphy on it. Our Michael and Margaret had a son, Frank, a daughter Rose (who was born in Scotland in 1854), and two other daughters, Mary and Margaret Elizabeth, who were both born in Iowa. Margaret Elizabeth Murphy is my great-grandmother ... she married John Hannibal Alger. Rose married a Mr. North and Mary married a Mr. Fahey. Does anyone have information about this couple? We can't find anything out about where they came from in Ireland ... none of the obituaries mentioned this information. We know that Michael and Margaret raised their Fahey grandsons after Mary and her husband died. Reading your posts makes me so hopeful you all will know something! Thanks!

Colleen Alger Holt

Hello Colleen,

I have come across your name before on some Iowa message boards etc. looking for YOUR Michael and Margaret.  Sadly, I think we are of different families.  My Margaret was almost certainly a Brennon/Brannon and the death dates dont't match.  And while they or one of the sons, Michael E(dward)Murphy, did live in Lyons for a time, I do believe it is not the same.  --This has indeed caused great confusion for both of us with our searches, as I am of the belief that there were infact 2 Michael and Margaret Murphy's at very near the ame time and in the same dern county! ... Michael and Margaret are such classic Irish names.  You said your Michael and Margaret are buried in Clinton?  I don't see them on Iowa gravestones project.

With that said, all is such a mystery! and maybe I am just overlooking the obvious?  I am on a bit of an ancestery hiatius for some months to come due to my work schedule but if you give me your email address as i dont want to post here with multi generation info, I will gladly send along a "family workshhet" that i have made and you can take a look-see if any of our info rings bells.  I undoubtly hope I am wrong and there is a connection, yet if not, maybe we can help eachother sort out some of the census info where they appear in several townships in the same census years.

Kindly,

brea murphy

breamurphy@yahoo.com