ROCHE / KIELY

Westie:

Unfortunately, there are gaps in the records for the Monagea RC parish  https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0888 and there are no baptismal records from 1813-1829 which is likely the period when David and Johanna were born.

Looks like the family lived in a place name called Glenshaska which is not an official townland. The 1850 Griffiths Valuation head of household listing for Monagay civil parish shows a David Roche in Rathcahill West townland and I'm wondering if that is your David. https://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/limerick/monagay.php

Civil death records are available on the free site www.irishgenealogy.ie  There are images available for 1871-1970 but for 1864-1870 we only have index records at this time.

There is an index record for a David Roche who died in 1869 at age 50 possibly that record is for your ancestor

I looked at Johanna Roche death records and fournd a record in 1892 for a Johanna Roche who lived in Glenshesk which is close in spelling to Glenshaska. The only flaw is that the informant is a son Edmond but you do not have an Edmond listed.

See fifth record https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_retu…

Let me know if you have any questions.

Roger McDonnell

Hi Roger

Thank You for your quick reply. I had a good lo ok at those records again and possibly that is him in Rathcahill West. There seems to be a a couple of Christian names there that he and Johanna called their children. Also there seems to be several Kiely families in Rathcahill West and the sponsors for the birth of their first child Johanna born 1846 were Edmund Roche and Catherine Kiely. I saw 2 Edmund / Edmond Roche's but no Catherine Kiely. I suppose she could have married by the time the Griffiths was done or moved away. 

Thank You Roger for all the information it seems there's a couple of things that tie together leading towards Rathcahill West. Also I didn't realise those years of Registers were missing so it's great to now know that.

Kind Regards

Joan West