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My great grandmother Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bill born 1871 ib Ballysillian, Belfast to John Bill and Agnes Harvey.

Elizabeth married Thomas Wilson[1867-1891] in 1890 at Agnes St Church.

Then Elizabeth married widower John Ussher [c1853 - 1911] in 1905 at Newlington Presbyterian Church. Elizabeth and John had a daughter Elizabeth born 1906 and son George Green 1910. Elizabeth died in 1942 and George was informate on her death cerificate. 

Have just recently found this information would like to find out if young Elizabeth married and had a family and whether George and his wife Sarah had any children, and if there are any family still living.

Regards 

Stella

 

StellaMGC

Friday 30th Dec 2016, 11:59PM

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  • Stella,

    George Ussher appears to have married Sarah Hamill on 4.4.1936 in Belfast. You can view the original certificate on-line on the GRONI website, using the “search registrations” option:

    https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk

    You will need to open an account and buy some credits. It costs £2.50 (sterling) to a view a certificate.

    Apart from 1 neo-natal child, I can’t tell you whether they had any children as those records are not available on-line. They are open to the public but just not on-line. You either need to go to the GRONI public search room in Belfast or contact GRONI by e-mail or phone and get them to search for you. (There will be a fee). Or get a researcher to do it for you.

    There’s a burial of a George Green Ussher in grave L240 in the city cemetery (Glenalina extension). I suspect his parents will be George and Sarah. He died 6.3.1937 aged 2 days. Address 16 Lyle St, Belfast. Also buried there are Margaret Hamill died 1951 and Robert Hamill died 1924.

    http://www.belfastcity.gov.uk/community/burialrecords/burialrecords.aspx 

    George Green Ussher's death certificate in 1937 should be viewable on-line on the GRONI site but to get his birth cert you will need to e-mail them.

    George Ussher, machinist. Is listed at 16 Lyle St in 1943 & 1951:

    http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/Lcomplete1943_b.htm

    http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/Lcomplete1951_b.htm

    I don’t see a death in 1942 for Elizabeth Ussher born 1906 in the death indexes. There is one on 4.3.1942 in Belfast but she was aged 71. Unless there is a mistake in the age, it can’t be the same lady. (But you could view the cert on-line to check, if you wnated). From the information you have provided, you seem to have details of your Elizabeth’s death. So perhaps you have a death cert for her?  That should tell you whether she married. Her marital status should be recorded on the certificate.

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Saturday 31st Dec 2016, 02:04AM
  • THanks for the info and links. The Elizabeth that died in 1942 is the mother of George and Elizabeth. 

     

    Stella

     

    StellaMGC

    Tuesday 24th Jan 2017, 03:27AM
  • Hi Stella

    I can't believe I just found your post.  My name is Janice (nee Ussher) and I just started working on my family tree in December 2016.  I am 1 of  6 granddaughters of  George Green Ussher (born July 4, 1910) and Sarah (Sadie) Ussher's (nee Hamill). The young Elizabeth you are looking for, my Great Aunt Elizabeth (Lizzie) born July 10, 1906 died Feb 1, 1987 and she is buried with her parents John Ussher and Elizabeth Ussher (also your great grandmother).  Elizabeth never married, she lived at 18 Jersey Street with her mother Elizabeth (your great grandmother).  I have a beautiful picture of them both standing outside 18 Jersey Street.

    I also a have photo of John Ussher, Thomas Wilson and David Wilson at the Giants Causeway, they must have been friends.  John's first wife Sarah Ann died in 1901, they had 10 children.

    George and Sadie of 16 Lyle Street had 4 children, George Green born Mar 4, 1937 and died Mar 6, 1937.  He is buried with my Granny Ussher's parents Margaret and Robert Hamill.  Their 2nd son John Allen Ussher born 1938, is my father who has 3 daughers, 1 son, and he passed away Sept 2005.  We emigrated to Canada in 1974 when I was 14.  Their 3rd son is George Ussher who lives in N.I. and has 1 son, 1 daughter. Their 4th son Robert married and emigrated to Canada in 1965 and he has 2 daughters.  We are a close family.  I visited Aunt Lizzie in 1985 with my two children. My Granda (George Ussher) died in Feb 1982 and my Granny died Feb 1984. 

    I have lots more information to share and I am currently searching for information.  If possible I would really like to connect with you.  I am not familiar with this type of communication so not sure how we would connect.

    Warm Regards, Janice

    Janice

    Monday 27th Mar 2017, 03:01AM
  • One of you will need to send the other an e-mail address.

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Monday 27th Mar 2017, 07:10PM
  • Hi Janice

    Finally a contection with my Belfast family. I'm sure my father didnot now he had family left in Belfast.

    My email is stellachestnut35@gmail.com 

    hear from you soon.

    Regards

    Stella

    Cambridge, Waikato, New Zealand

     

     

     

     

    StellaMGC

    Tuesday 28th Mar 2017, 02:21AM
  • I knew Lizzie Ussher. She was my great aunt and my mother, Lavina Anderson (nee Chappell), was very close to her. She took me to visit her in Jersey Street quite regularly when I was a child. Later, Lizzie had a bad stroke and spent months in a hospital near Belvoir Park where we lived. It might've been Purdysburn, or perhaps Belvoir Hospital: close enough for Mum to walk there a few times a week to read to her. Aunt Lizzie, as we all knew her, was unable to respond, but Mum could see in her eyes how much she valued Mum's visits. Mum's mother was Sarah (Sissy) Ussher - stepdaughter to Lizzie. Sarah went to Canada but her family made it back to London and Belfast. Sarah had two brothers who died in the trenches in WW1. I'm really pleased to be seeing something of my mum's family, and am moved to read that someone is curious about Lizzie. My mother loved her beyond measure, and I remember a sweet and gentle lady.

    D. Anderson

    Tuesday 20th Apr 2021, 01:59PM
  • Correction, the Lizzie I knew was Sarah's stepsister, not stepmother.

    D. Anderson

    Tuesday 20th Apr 2021, 02:01PM
  • Hello D. Anderson, I have not been on this site for a while and just seen your post. I hope my message gets to you.

    Lizzie was sister to my grandfather George, they were both born to John Ussher and his 2nd wife Elizabeth and step siblings to your Sarah.  I made contact with the grandson of your grandmother's brother Albert Ussher in South Africa.  I knew from my Grandmother that Albert went to S. Africa to live.

    It is interesting that Sarah made the move to Canada which is where I have lived since 1974. I have been unable to find her marriage certificate, did she marry in Canada?

    I have collected quite a bit of info on our Ussher family and visited some of the graves in 2017 & 2019.

    I hope you see my post, I would like to connect with you.  Janice

    Janice

    Wednesday 13th Mar 2024, 11:21PM
  • Hello Janice

    Lovely to meet you!

    Sarah (Sissy) went to Canada in about 1916, and was employed as an indentured servant. She met her husband, Thomas Chappell, quite soon. My mum was their first child, born in 1917 in Windsor, Ontario. He was from Manchester and had moved to Canada when a young boy. The family lived mostly in Montreal for most of Mum's childhood, though later moved back and forth between Montreal, Belfast, Manchester and London during the 1930s' Depression. They struggled to find work in Canada; one of the reasons was a serious rift with the Chappell family, and so they had very little support. They stayed with Aunt Lizzie and her mother, Sissy's stepmother, when they were in Belfast. Sissy eventually settled in Islington, London, and died there in about 1953, before I was born.

    I don't know if you know that the Ussher family lost two brothers in WW1: one, James, I think, on the first day of the Battle of the Somme, and the other, I think Robert, just 9 days before the end of the war. Both these stories are, of course, poignant, but Robert was sent home because he had the Spanish Flu, and  Lizzie and her mum nursed him back to health only to have him sent back to the Front. I don't think Sissy was there at that point.

    Mum always maintained that Sissy Ussher was badly treated by an older brother after their mother died, and that was the main reason she left for Canada. I never heard his name. Before that, she had been working in the linen mills in Belfast from the age of 9. I think she might have been the only girl amongst 10 siblings: another reason she bonded with Lizzie and her stepmother.  

    I knew about Great Uncle Albert in South Africa. One of his children eventually moved to England: Dorset. Her name was Colleen and she had 4 daughters. I can't remember her married surname. She was a Christadelphian: they might have records. I'm saying 'was' more because we no longer have contact, which fizzled out after Mum died in 2010, though Colleen would probably also be in her 90s now anyway. 

    There's a local history book about the making of Greenfield Park in Montreal, in which my mother's family features. She contributed a chapter about her childhood memories of the area. 

     

    Dory 

     

     

    D. Anderson

    Tuesday 16th Apr 2024, 03:47PM
  • Hi Dory, lovely to meet you too.

     

    i am excited for your response.  I have been checking every day.  I would be happy to reach out to you as I have some lovely photos of Aunt Lizzie to share and information.  My email address is jcreelman14@rogers.com.  I look forward to hearing from you. Janice 

    Janice

    Tuesday 16th Apr 2024, 09:47PM

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