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I was able to find a copy of my great-grandparents' marriage record. James Magilton and Jane Mcilmail (names are mis-transcribed as 'Mcgitton' and 'Mcilmayne' on document) were married Dec 24, 1866 at St Anne's in Belfast parish.

I found information about a current St Anne's, completed in 1904, that seems to have been built around an older church (belfastcathedral.org) but can't seem to find any information about the older church, and I'm wondering if this is even the same church that my great-grandparents were married at? As well, they would have been Presbyterian, while St Anne's seems to be Church of Ireland. Can someone help? Many thanks, Debbie

dfrizzell

Wednesday 28th Jun 2017, 05:08PM

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  • St Anne’s was the main parish church for Belfast. It’s Church of Ireland. In 1904 it was replaced by St Anne’s Cathedral, which is still there today. As you have discovered, the method of building was to build the Cathedral around the old church. That way the old church could continue in use whilst the building work was taking place. Once the Cathedral was ready, they knocked the old church down and cleared the rubble out through the cathedral entrance. So one building replaced the other, on the same site, with little interruption in business. Your ancestors were married in the building that was demolished in 1904.

    Bear in mind that tradition was to marry in the brides church. James may have been Presbyterian but if his wife was Church of Ireland, they’d normally have married there. Thereafter she probably attended his Presbyterian church.

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Wednesday 28th Jun 2017, 06:26PM
  • Thanks Elwyn, that makes sense. It looks to be a beautiful building - will visit during my August trip....Debbie

    dfrizzell

    Thursday 29th Jun 2017, 05:11AM
  • There's a shop inside the Cathedral plus a Church of Ireland bookshop just next door. Between them they probably have some photos of the old church, if you can't find any on the net.

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 29th Jun 2017, 10:59AM
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    My Great Grandparents Rebecca De Winter and John Lindsay Johnstone were married there in 1855. For a picture, See Jean McCarthy's Genealogy Web Site http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jeanmccarthy36/more_c…

    See also the URL cited in what I attached to my Ancestry data: "

    St.Anne's Belfast as it was in e.g. 1855

    up tp end 19C, then developed into a Cathedral

    Donegall Street, Belfast, Ireland

    The last service in St. Anne's Parish Church was on 27 December 1903. The Cathedral was built round the old church, the organ replaced, etc The feeling that Saint Anne's was still the Parish Church persisted. In the Marriage Registers it took until 1927 before entries in the Married in ? slots changed from being Parish Church to Cathedral. Baptisms are still recorded naming the place of baptism as Parish Church of Belfast. Ref:http://belfastcathedral.org/heritage/articles/04/ One reason for arranging the building of the Cathedral around the Church was to allow as much continuity as was possible for worshippers during the transition. There was a fear that a lengthy closure would lead to some of the congregation leaving to join St George's or any of the 29 churches the Church of Ireland had created in Belfast since 1833. In the summer of 1906 an announcement was made that Mr Carnegie had promised £800 for a new organ on condition that another £800 was raised locally, this on the assumption that a suitable instrument could be had for £1600. That signalled the end for the 125 year old organ. Source of photo: Jean McCarthy's Genealogy Web

    Two phots I have used are  below:

    JEJIrishLass

    Thursday 29th Jun 2017, 02:57PM
  • thank you elwyn and JeJIrishLass! I love the photos and story about the new construction, and I will check out the shop to see what's on hand.... Cheers, Debbie

    dfrizzell

    Friday 30th Jun 2017, 07:31PM

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