looking for story Isaac Sinnamon

Hello Debbe

You can view a transcript of D'Arcy Sinnamon's Will on www.proni.gov.uk - just follow the links to the Will Calendars.  D'Arcy had both sons and daughters but Isaac is not listed as one of them.  I checked all the remaining Sinnamon Wills where there is an image to view but again no Isaac Sinnamon.

Debbe

Take a look at the attachment - is this Isaac's death certificate?  If it is then it lists his father as James.

Veronica

Yes!  Thank you, Veronica.  I'm certain this is him because his wife was Margaret E Sinnamon and the address is the same as listed for his daughter when she attended school in 1918.  I don't know why it says that he was "S" under marital status.  How amazing that you were able to find it.  I have tried various searches but was unsuccessful.  (thank you!)  This explains so much too.  I always wondered why my father's grandparents didn't stay involved in his life when his mother died with young children.  Isaac was deceased before his grandchildren were born.  I wonder if Elizabeth might have been too...

James must be Isaac's father.  There was not a James listed in the Griffiths Valuation of Armagh in 1864 though.  hmm  Any suggestions?

Debbe

Debbe

I thought it strange also about the "S" under marital status - probably clerical error.

I've done some more digging and there is a Tree on the Ancestry Website which appears to include Isaac - only they came from Pomeroy, Co Tyrone - a little more digging and Aghafad seems likely as the place they lived in.  The Isaac in this Tree had parents James Sinnamon [also spelled Cinnamon, Cinnamond, Sinnamond] and Elizabeth Kidd.  Siblings of Isaac include Henry, Benjamin, John, Mary, James, Hamilton, Elizabeth, Annie and George  - do any of these seem familiar?  Also, was Isaac's wife Margaret Elizabeth Hume?

I'm attaching a death record for James Sinnamon [son of Isaac and Margaret E].  I also came across a baptism record for a Margaret Elizabeth Hume which gives her date of birth.  Don't know if this is your Margaret but take a look anyway.

Veronica

Veronica, 

I do not have any info on Isaac's Irish family so names do not seem familiar or unfamiliar but yes, Isaac's wife was Margaret Elizabeth Hume and she was born in February 1859 so this ought to be our Margaret!  I am excited because we did not have her parents' names either and that is new info.  The baptismal record is in Philadelphia?  

Elizabeth Hume's parents were from Ireland also but that is all I've known about her.  The parents and family of my grandmother, Elizabeth Sinnamon, have always been a mystery to us as she died when my father was 5 and as an adult, he didn't seem to know anything about her family.  Your help is appreciated.  

Debbe

Debbe

Yes the birth record is from Philadelphia.  There are some more which I assume are Margaret's siblings attached.

I looked at the tree on Ancestry again and unfortunately the records of the Church Isaac's parents married in and I assume the children were baptized in are not available at the Public Records Office - you would have to contact the Church directly.

Veronica

Debbe

I'm also attaching death records for Thomas and Elizabeth Hume who I believe were Isaac's grandparents.

Veronica

Thank you, again, Veronica.  I believe they would be Isaac's in-laws though.  Isaac married Margaret Elizabeth Hume and Thomas & Elizabeth were her parents I believe.  So T & E would be Elizabeth Hume Sinnamon's (my grandmother) grandparents then. 

I'm going to make a drawing of this as a visual reference.  I'm amazed at the records you've accessed.  When you mentioned the church in which Thomas & Elizabeth Hume married, are there records whether they married here in the US or in Ireland?  Perhaps I might assume the same church that they used for the baptism was the church in which they married?        How do I find out when people arrived in this country?   

This is exciting.  I looked at the County Tyrone website and have just discovered the websitemanual which I will look at tomorrow. 

You have been very helpful and again, I appreciate your time.  I appreciate your help.

Debbe

Debbe

Yes, you're right they were Isaac's in-laws.  I may have confused you more by mentioning the Church - it was actually the Church Isaac's parents were married in - they were married [according to the tree on Ancestry] in Altedesert Church, Pomeroy in 1848 but as I said these records are in the custody of the Church and not at PRONI.

Veronica

Hi Veronica, are you saying Isaac's parents (if he is the Isaac from Pomeroy) are known to have been married in Altedesert Church in 1848?  If I contact the Church, it may be possible for me to access or have a copy of that record?

My husband and I are attending a daughter's wedding in Germany this summer.  We have planned the trip to fly in and out through Ireland as I've always been interested to see the beauty of the country.  Although he has to return immediately, I am planning to take a few days with another daughter, her husband, and my sister to stay and travel a bit.  We had planned to take a train across the country to Galway and spend a couple of days before returning to Dublin and the States.  I did not expect to have so much information regarding the family tree (!) but perhaps can travel to the church to request a record if that is the protocol...   Although my sister had visited Ireland before, she traveled unaware of our family connection and we all look forward to the trip with new eyes. 

Debbe

Hi Veronica, I was looking on the web and wanted to ask if this is the church to which you referred?

http://www.genuki.eu/TYR/Church21.htm

Also, I noticed a 'donate' button at the top of the homepage.  When I clicked on it, I was redirected to a different site but it did not still have the Irelandxo group listed.  The Internet is tricky but i wanted to check to see if that is still and active campaign and does 100% of the donation truly go to the Irelandxo group?

Debbe

Debbe

I believe that is the Church - it is the one mentioned in the Family Tree on Ancestry but only that Isaac's parents were married there - I don't know where they got the information and why, if the children were baptized there they wouldn't have that recorded on the Family Tree.

Not sure about the 'Donate' button - if you use the 'contact us' button and explain they will get back to you very quickly.

Veronica

Just today I received a transcription of the marriage of James Sinnamon and Elizabeth Kidd (attached below). I descend through James' son James, who is also Isaac's brother. I have a little bit more going back, including James' and Elizabeth's fathers names, and some of James' siblings. I post what I have on my website (Isaac Sinnamon is at http://minchin.ca/genealogy/profile-I4548.html ), but see below for a summary:

First Generation

1.  Isaac Sinnamon1 was born on 13 Nov 1851 in , Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland.2 He immigrated in 1873 to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States.3 4 He died of myocarditis on 10 Nov 1913 at the age of 61 at 2852 N 5th Street in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States.2 On 10 Nov 1913 Isaac was a Salesman in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States.2 He was buried on 14 Nov 1913 at H Cedar Hill.2

Second Generation

2.  James Sinnamon1 was christened on 21 Feb 1819.5 He was born calculated 1820.6 Died aged 72 on 25 March 1892 (as per tombstone). 5 He died on 25 Mar 1892 at the age of 72 in Pomeroy, Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland.6 aged 72 at time of death. On 15 Sep 1892 James was a Farmer.7 He was buried at Crossdernot Church Graveyard in Pomeroy, Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland.6

Note: Elizabeth Kidd and James Sinnamon were married on 9 Feb 1848 at Altedesert Parish Church in Cookstown, Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland.8 Both James and Elizabeth were previously unmarried.

Note: Cookstown is about 9 miles from Pomeroy. Altedesert Church might better be considered in Pomeroy....

3.  Elizabeth Kidd1 was born calculated 1822.6 Died aged 83 on 26 April 1905 (as per tombstone). She was born before 1830 in Pomeroy, Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland. She died on 26 Apr 1905 at the age of 83 in Pomeroy, Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland.6 Died aged 83 Elizabeth was buried at Crossdernot Church Graveyard in Pomeroy, Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland.6

James Sinnamon and Elizabeth Kidd had the following children:

              1              i.   Isaac Sinnamon, born 13 Nov 1851, , Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland; died 10 Nov 1913, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States.

                             ii.   Elizabeth Sinnamon1 was born in 1859 in , Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland. She died on 27 Sep 1875 at the age of 16 in Pomeroy, Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland.6 Died aged 16 years. She was buried at Crossdernot Church Graveyard in Pomeroy, Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland.6 Gravestone erected by her brother Henry Sinnamon.

                            iii.   Hamilton Sinnamon1 was born in , Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland.

                            iv.   Mary Sinnamon1 was born in , Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland. No Children

                             v.   Henry Sinnamon1 lived in Pomeroy, Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland on 15 Sep 1892.7 On 15 Sep 1892 he was a School Teacher in Pomeroy, Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland.7 He was born in , Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland.

                            vi.   John Sinnamon1 died in , , England. Died in a Coalmine in England

                           vii.   Benjamin Sinnamon1 died in 1924. He was born in , Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland.

                          viii.   James Sinnamon1 was born on 27 Nov 1853 in , Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland. He was buried in Apr 1935 in Pomeroy, Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland. He died on 15 Apr 1935 at the age of 81 in Pomeroy, Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland.
Note: House where James was born in 1853 is now owned by Emma Steen, cousin of my great-grandfather, Robert George Sinnamon. (1989)
 

                            ix.   Ann "Annie" Sinnamon1 was born on 12 Sep 1864 in Pomeroy, Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland. IGI: Batch C701237, serial sheet 4298
 

                             x.   George K. Sinnamon1 was born on 6 Aug 1866 in Pomeroy, Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland. IGI: Batch C701292, serial sheet 4658

Note: Emigrated to USA

Third Generation

4.  Benjamin Sinnamon was born about 1780 in , Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland. Guesstimate 1780, based on children's baptisms He was also known as Ben Sinamon in 1808.5 As recorded at the baptism of his daughter Elizabeth (6 Mar 1808). He was also known as Benjamin Sinamin in 1817–1821.5 As recorded at the baptisms of his children Hamilton (23 Feb 1817), James (21 Feb 1819), and Ann (28 Jun 1821). On 9 Feb 1848 Benjamin was a Farmer.8 As per his son James' marriage certificate. He died in , Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland. He was buried in , Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland. Benjamin Sinnamon was married before 1808 in , Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland. He lived  in Drumalis, Ireland on 23 Feb 1817.5 He lived  in Drumalis, Ireland on 21 Feb 1819.5 Benjamin lived  in Tyrone, Ireland on 28 Jun 1821.5

Benjamin Sinnamon had the following children:

                              i.   Elizabeth Sinnamon was christened on 6 Mar 1808.5

                             ii.   Hamilton Sinnamon was born calculated 1817.9 Died aged 83 years on 20 October 1900 (as per gravestone). 5 He was christened on 23 Feb 1817.5 He died on 20 Oct 1900 at the age of 83 in Pomeroy, Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland.9 Died aged 83 years (as per gravestone). Hamilton was buried at Crossdernot Church Graveyard in Pomeroy, Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland.9

              2            iii.   James Sinnamon, born calc 1820; died 25 Mar 1892, Pomeroy, Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland.

                            iv.   Ann Sinnamon was christened on 28 Jun 1821.5

6.  On 9 Feb 1848 Isaac Kidd8 was a Famer.8 As per his daughter Elizabeth's marriage certificate.

Isaac Kidd had the following child:

              3              i.   Elizabeth Kidd, born calc 1822; died 26 Apr 1905, Pomeroy, Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland.

Footnotes:

        1. Jerry Doyle, "," edited 2007-07-24, RootsWeb, Ballymaguigan Roots (http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=jerrydoyle:), citing Church and Civil Records.

        2. Debbe Tomkinson, Ireland Reaching Out (http://www.irelandxo.com/node/21161 : accessed 23 February 2014), Certificate of Death for Isaac Sinnamon.

        3. Tomkinson, Ireland Reaching Out, Ireland Reaching Out - looking for story Isaac Sinnamon.

        4. Tomkinson, Ireland Reaching Out, Return of Death for James Sinnamon.

        5. David Bailey, "BENJAMIN SINNAMON," e-mail message from [e-mail for private use] ([street address for private use], Brisbane, Australia), to William Minchin, 17 February 2014.

        6. Ulster Historical Foundation, "Northern Irish Gravestone Incscirptions," database, Irish Genealogy Records & Family History Research (http://www.ancestryireland.com/: accessed 22 February 2014), http://www.ancestryireland.com/family-records/gravestone-inscriptions/?….

        7. Irish Genealogy.ie, "Church Records," database,  (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/e06a550557… accessed 18 February 2014), .

        8. Roots Ireland, "Civil Marriage Record," database, Roots Ireland,  (www.rootsireland.ie: accessed ), Civil Marriage Record of James Sinnamon and Elizabeth Kidd.

        9. Foundation, Irish Genealogy Records & Family History Research, http://www.ancestryireland.com/family-records/gravestone-inscriptions/?….