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A people that have forgotten their heritage are a people who have lost faith in themselves

 

Killole abu war cry

Fortitudine vincit he conquers by strength

The stags head portrayed on the shields of those doyle men who have been granted heraldic arms is regarded as a symbol of valour keenness permanence and endurance despite the ravages of man and time this prince of animals is still a strong force in the mountains of Wicklow 

Teutons farmers fishermen and sea merchants

Danish the danair or danes the dark because they wore chain mail armour dubhghoill darker haired danes new foreigners   

Swedish dubhgall denotes a norseman or a Scandinavian

Norwegian the lochlainn the Norwegians the fair fionnghoill fair foreigners fair haired Norwegians

Scottish gaeld from the Hebrides fionnghall

Hiberno normans or old English seangholl old foreigners     

Vikingr old norse sea rover or pirate

O douell  

Dowall Dowell dowels macdowall mcdowall Mcdowell mcdowel mcdowells descended from Danish Vikings dubhghoill usually danes

Irish scots norse galloglass mercenaries  

O dowile O dowill dowyll

Dubh ghaill o dubhghaill du gall dark evil foreigner Danish Vikings

Duggal mcduggal  

Doyal Doyel doyelle Doyle Odoyle  is a surname of irish origin the name is Anglicisation of the irish odubhghaill contains the elements dubh black + gall stranger

Dougall or macdougall mcdougal mcdougall in Scotland

 

County Carlow

Anciently cited to be inhabited by the brigantes and cauci by Ptolemy

Or by the coriundi by whitaker

Territory called hy kinselagh and

the northern part of the territory located Carlow which was distinguished by the name hy cabanagh and hy drone

An early form of the countys name was catherlagh

1.carlow the ui bairrche are noted early in this barony

The odolans were hereditary brehons of leinster and cited here

2. forth onuallain onolan were princes of fotharta the root name for the barony of forth they were of the sept of the fotharta of mag fea

3. idrone east the ui bairrche and ui drona are cited here early the oriain ryan sept were lords of ui drona see 9th century

4. idrone west  oriain ryan lords of ui drona are cited here

5. rathvilly in the 5th century crimthan king of leinster lived at rathvilly the territory was that of the ui feimelda tuaid a ui cheinnselaig sept descended from feidlimidh son of enna ceansalagh and brother of crimthan the mackeoghs here? Were chief bards of the kings of leinster an oneill family was centered here

6. st mullins lower the ancient land of the ui drone was centered here in the 8th century

7. st mullins upper very early this area was referred to as fearann ui neill or the country of farren oneale lords of tully this may refer to the oneill sept of magh da chonn in leinster      

The principal septs include

Mac murrough

Kavanagh

Odoran

Onolan

dinshenchus 1160ad giolla na naonh hua duinn topographical poems of erin

339-341

116c sliab cua knockmeldown county waterford

there fell a sickness sad the news on the kine of wide stretching banba

it killed them without exception or survivor all but the bull of the glen and his heifer

the noble son of royal rudraige famous bresal of murrain was lord over every boats haven     

                                                                                               5001-reign of bresal 

and ruled the people in the cow plague

he had a rhyming druid whose name was buadach mac birchlui                                          

                                            479-527ad congil clar ainech calls his druid boible m buirchi

men called him not amiss the wry mouthed old crow of bairche

to the crow bresal gives of judgement gave his cow and his sleek wanton bull

as free largesse of the wealthy king to stop his druids greed

the druid bade his fosterlings to keep the siant yielding kine

one of them each day to guard the stock from sickness

to pasture them and watch them well

his turn came to fair cua cendmar to keep .....

these kind from the raiding of starving folk from dogs and theivish wolves

this undutiful sluggard went with his masters beasts secretly

and put them in a cooking pit for kine of the shady red showered mountain

hence come the fair sliab cua it is no brand new specious splendour

upon it he builds a darksome pit when he wrought the monstrous slaughter

i have fashioned a choice truth telling tale from the story of old cuas mountain

a muster of polished stanzas in my cunning work great is the case where it came

Reign of Aengus Olmucadha mac Fiacha Labhrainne: 3773-90.

Clere

Cuirce

Sliabh Cailge, in Corca Bhaiscinn

Ros Fraechan, in Muirisc

Carn Riceadha

Cuil Ratha, in South Munster

Sliabh Cua

Ard Achadh

Fifty Battles of the Cruithean Tuath and Firbolgs

Twelve Battles of the Longbardai

Four battles of the Colaisti

3790 - Carmann

Another challenge to ?ed may have come from the direction of Ulster in the person of

Fiachnae mac B?et?in (died 626) of the D?l nAraidi.

At the royal conference at Druim Cett the affairs of Osraige had been discussed

implying an influence by ?ed over the affairs of Munster.[14]

In 597 Fiachnae won the Battle of Sliab Cua in the territory of Munster.[15]

Fiachnae had earlier won a battle over the Ciannachta of Brega in 594.[16]

The possibility is that Fiachnae was a possible king of Tara in the 590's[17]

At this time, dissensions having arisen between the two wives of Nuadu, King of Leinster,

he sent off his favourite wife to Munster "on the safeguard of Finnchua of Sliabh Cua",

Arrived near Brigown the saint desired she should not come any further until her child was born,

for at that time "neither wives nor women used to come to his church".[3]

On the birth of the child he was baptised by Finnchu, and named Fintan.

In a war which ensued between the King of Leinster and the kinsmen of his neglected wife,

Finnchu was successful in obtaining the victory for the king.

Fintan was with him, and when the king begged that the boy might be left with him,

Finnchu consenting gave him "his choice between the life of a layman and that of a cleric".

Having chosen the latter the land was bestowed on him,

from which he was afterwards known as St. Fintan of Cluainednech.

The St. Fintan (d. 634) generally known by this title was the son of Tulchan,

but it appears from his Life that there were four of the name at Cluain-ednech.[3]

 

Sliabh gCua is a traditional district of west County Waterford, Ireland,

between Clonmel and Dungarvan, covering areas like Touraneena, Ballinamult and Knockboy.

In ancient writings its location was less precisely understood,

often encompassing the mountain ranges of the Knockmealdowns, Monavullagh mountain and Comeraghs.[1]

It was an Irish-speaking area until the late 19th century.

Many people associated with the Irish sean-n?s singing tradition,

such as P?draig ? Mileadha and Labhr?s ? Cadhla, who came from Sliabh gCua.

One of the best-loved emigrant songs in the sean-n?s canon, Sliabh Geal gCua na F?ile, was written by ? Mileadha while he worked in Wales.

Ancient ogham writings may be observed at the 12th century Knockboy church in the heart of Sliabh gCua.

Dan Fraher, after whom the Fraher Field GAA grounds in Dungarvan are named,

came from the Skeheens townland of Sliabh gCua and is buried in Knockboy graveyard

   

795ad at dusk on a summers eve in the year 795ad a sinister looking high prowed ship ploughed into the sands at lambay island just north of howth head on the east coast of Ireland near Dublin immediately from the body of the longboat the oarsmen rushed to attack the monastery of saint columkill they slaughtered the monks plundered the monastery for for all the gold and silver vessels they could find and then disappeared back into the irish sea the irish annalists referring to the incident describe the unwelcome arrivals of the dubh-ghaill  the first doyles had arrived in Ireland

This was the beginning of more than two centuries of attack and invasion which had devasting effect on Ireland and the irish monasteries in particular

Viking from the old norse vikingr means sea rover or pirate and this precisely what these people were ethically they were teutons Danish Swedish and Norwegian farmers fishermen and sea merchants who were forced onto the open sea in search of a livelihood by over population and shortage of arable land at home

From the 8th century their plundering raids terrorized much of the known world reaching as far as America north Africa and Constantinople

Members of clan doyle clann o dhubhghaill dubh ghaill pronounced du gall take their family surname from the irish gaelic words meaning dark evil foreigner and this is what the indigenous celts called the Danish Vikings who started settling in Ireland and Scotland more than a 1,000 years ago

In Ireland the annalists distinguished two groups among the raiding Vikings the lochlainn or Norwegians and the danair or danes the Norwegians being described as fair the Danish as dark because they wore chain mail armour initially the Norwegians dominated and their raids were sporadic and unsystematic

 

800ad the Norwegians settled around Dublin building a settlement the lochlainn  

 

From about 830ad however a new phase of large scale attacks involving the use of fleets of long ships began and the Vikings penetrated deep inland through the use of rivers and lakes attracted by the wealth of the monasteries and churches they plundered them steadily

 

Irish obruadair descendant of bruadar the name has been thought to have been derived from a norse personal name brodir however according to Benjamin Hudson the norse brodir meaning brother is first recorded in 853 in the name of bruattar mac aeda an irish princeling from the south east of Ireland

 

As early as 851ad one dubhgilla son of broder is mentioned as king of idrone in county Carlow from this time onwards it is an interesting exercise to trace the development of the name in the calendar of irish records we instance the following as examples o dowill dowyll o dowile o doule o douell duggal mcduggal mcdowell dowell mcdowall and dowall all are clearly forms of dubh ghaill mentioned above  

One authority however rev john francis shearman asserts that the eponymous ancestor of the east leinster doyles was dughgilla a norseman son of bruadar king of idrone county Carlow in the year 851ad

The founder of this family is thought to be descended from a norseman who came to Ireland raiding and then settled before the anglo norman invasions

It is sometimes also claimed that the doyles are an offshoot of the great decies sept of ophelan

The odoyle clan of Viking origin was said to originate from the 9th century king of idrone

The doyles organised themselves exactly like the other irish clans their war cry killole abu refers to a hill of that name near the present town of arklow where they assembled for war

 

From this period date the first Vikings fortified settlements

In 852ad the danes wrested control of one of these settlements the military and trading post of Dublin from the Norwegians lochlainn under their king olaf a dark Danish in irish amlaoimh and founded the Danish kingdom of Dublin dubhgilla which was to last three hundred years until the coming of the anglo normans    the dubhgilla

Vikings usually danes dubhghoill

Norwegians fionnghoill fair foreigners

 

For the next 100 years up to the middle of the tenth century the Vikings consolidated and extended their power through unremitting aggression

“914 -- A great fleet of Norwegians landed at Port L?irge, and they plundered northern Osraige and brought great spoils and many cows and livestock to their ships.” (Fragmentary Annals of IrelandAnnal FA 458; p. 181, Radner)  This particular excerpt is of great interest as it is the Vikings who are taking cattle from the British Isles, rather than bringing them and forever leaving a "Scandinavian" influence behind, and for that reason is included here, and likewise the excerpt below is of great interest to the history of the white cattle and all other breeds of Ireland and the British Isles. 

923ad dubhgall son of aedh king of ulidia was also slain by the ulidians  

 

From about 950 on however the east clare gaelic sept of the dal cais began its rise to power capturing first the kingship of munster from the eoganachta and then

 

978ad as dubhghaill the name appears in the annals of the four masters at various dates between ad978 and 1013  

978ad dubhgall son of donnach tanist of aileach was slain by his kinsmen muiredeach son of flann and muireadhach was slain by his tribe before the end of the month in revenge of dubhghall

993ad aedh son of dubhgall son of donnchadh lord of magh-ithe and royal hier of oileach died

 

1002 with brian boru taking the high kingship of Ireland from the ui neill

1005 the four masters give an account of a great hosting made by brian borumha into north of ireland which is stated to have been extracted from the book of clonmacnois and the book of the island 1 of saints  page 244 the account of this expedition given by the four masters at ad 1005 purports to be an extract from the book of cluain muc nois and the book of the island the entry is not in mageoghegans translation of the annals of clonmacnoise                                                                                         viz the carrachan of solomons temple which was given by maelsechlainn son of domhnall carrachan this seems to have been the same as the article mentioned at the 1005 supra under the name of eneclar orilly ir dict in voce explains carrachan as a model in which he is followed by dr donovan four mast ad an 1129 page xli of ua begulain from some office the purchase of the eneclar of the great altar by king maelsechlainn

and the cuidin of donnach son of flann cuidin ie catinus curom (cuidin) a plate = lat catinus ingeritur fumans calido cum farre catinus a pot steaming with hot emmer is poured in

and the three articles which toirdhealbhach ua conchobhair gave   viz a silver goblet and a silver cup with a golden cross over it and a drinking horn with gold and the drinking horn of ua riata king of aradh and a silver chalice with a burnishing of gold and an engraving and the silver cup of ceallach comarb of Patrick

1012 a great fleet of foreigners arrived in munster so that they burned corcach but god immediately took vengeance of them for that deed for amhlaelbh son of sitric ie the son of the lord of the foreigners and mathghamhain son of dubhgall and many others were slain by cathal son of domhnall son of dubhdabheireann

1013 an army was led by brian boru son of ceinneidigh son of lorcan king of Ireland and by maelseachlainn malachy son of domhnall king of teamhair tara to ath cliath Dublin the foreigners of the west of Europe assembled against brian and maelseachlainn and they took with them ten hundred men with coats of mail a soirited fierce violent vengeful and furious battle was fought between them the likeness of which was not to be found in that time at cluaintarbh clontarf on the Friday before easter precisely

fidh gaibhle a famous wood in leinster the mast of a ship taken from which created a dispute which ended in the battle of clontarf the situation of the wood can now be pointed out

Fidh Gaibhle. - This was the name of a celebrated wood of Leinster, in which St. Berchan erected the Church of Clonsasta. It is now locally called Fee-Goille or Fee-guile, and is situated in the parish of Cloonsast, barony of Coolestown, and King's County. See Leabhar na gCeart, p. 214, note o. 

1014ad brian boru battle of clontarf family slaughtered hand hacked ring taken off royal king line

1014 brian boru taking the high kingship of Ireland from the ui neill brian fused the disparate gaelic forces together with some renegade Vikings into a single confederate army and stopped the combined might of of the Norwegian and Danish forces in the battle of clontarf on

The Friday before easter precisely

april 23rd 1014ad neutralising the power of the Vikings in Ireland permanently

105. brian boroimhe boru the 175th monarch of Ireland a younger son of cineadh b926 at kincora the royal seat of his ancestors and fell by the hand of brodar the Danish admiral at the battle of clontarf on good Friday the 23rd april 1014 in the 88th year of his age this brian brian irish very great strength was the ancestor of obrien kings of thomond

Dubhghall son of amhlaibh olaf prince of leinster was slain at the battle of clontarf

In the battle were slain brian son of ceinneidigh monarch of Ireland there follows a long list of those killed there were also slain dubhghall son of amhlaeibh and gillaciaran son of gluniairm two tanists of the foreigners 

Brodir a participant in the battle of clontarf

 

1014ad king brian boromhe boru killed in battle of clontarf brian boru battle of clontarf family slaughtered hand hacked ring taken of royal king line  maelseachlann ii called malachy ii the monarch of ireland who was deposed by brian urard or erard mac coise was present among maelsechlainns hosts at clontarf and brought the account of the battle to macling at kincora  

 

1015ad mac liag chief poet and secretary to brian boru his real name seems to have been muirchertach or murtough mac chonchertaigh and he belonged to the corann country of mayo and sligo he was first attached to the family of the okellys oh hy maine on the shannon and several of his poems are addressed to them but he eventually succeeded flann mac lonain as poet to the obrians at kincora both historical pieces and poems ascribed to mac liag but several of the ascriptions are doubtful of the historical works 1 it is likely that a good part of the wars of the gall and gael or wars of the foreignors and irish may be by his hand oreilly also thinks that he wrote the leabhair oiris or annals of the wars and battles of ireland but this seems to be rather late  a life of king brian is said to have been written by him but if this was the case it is now unknown of his poems several are extant 1 on the sons of cas from whom are descended the dal cais of thomond 2 on brian and his brothers sons of kennedy 3 on the fall of brian at clontarf and the desolation of kincora begining o kincora where is brian 4 poem on the battle of clontarf the account of which was brought to him by mac coise it is in the form of a dialogue between the two poets beginning from the east has come the news of brians fall 5 accounts of the tributes boromha received by brian at kincora and from which he took his title 6 lament on the fall of kincora written from innse gaill duibh the island of the black foreigners on the shannon after his retirement to that place other poems are 7 on the story of carn conaill 8 two poems in praise of tadhg okelly 9 on the death of tadhg okelly at clontarf some of these poems to the okellys must have been written in mac liags early days they are preserved in the leabhar ui maine or book of the okellys     boirrmhu brian borro high king 

 

 

Although their political power declined after this as a people the Viking were soon thoroughly absorbed into the religious and political life of the country adopting the irish language and the irish customs intermarrying and intermingling

To them we owe all of the earliest towns in the country and settlements

Dublin                                   852ad and 15th 16th 17th century

Wicklow southeast leinster

Wexford southeast leinster

Carlow southeast leinster 851ad

Waterford 1291 eoghan o dughgaill 15th 16th 17th century

dinshenchus 1160ad giolla na naomh hua duinn topographical poems of erin   369-371

121c ard ruide on the river suir

eoacaid mor son of lugaid son of laisre son of troitha son of dergthene   with his brothers to them belongs  the chief headship in ard ruide  whereof find said three affluences are there in the dun of ard ruide  affluence of young men  affluence of horses  affluence of greyhounds of the son of lugaid  three kinds of music hath its kings a glory  this music of harps  music of lutes  attend deep tones of fer tuinne son of trogan  three cries are it in failingly  cry of the lamb from its lawn  cry of races and  cry of kine  three cries  cry of its broad chined beetle black swine  cry of its assembly upon the halls green   cry of them that shout and them that drink mead  three crops of fruit there were upon the boughs in due course  a crop just falling a crop flowering and a crop ripening  three sons did lugaid leave whither are gone the riches  ruide son of broad built lugaid  eochaid and  manly fiachu  i will bear witness of ruide to whom come those three affluences  never did ruide refuse any one a boon  never did he ask a boon of anyone  i will bear witness of eochaid that he never took a step in flight  that he never said a word untrue and  that there are none higher than he in fame  i will bear witness to fiachu whither are gone his riches  that it was never his wont to lack music  that he was never long without drinking of ale  thirty nobles thirty champions thirty captains a kings muster  thrice thirty hundreds was the number of his flocking host

 

The River Suir (Irish pronunciation: [?u?r], Irish An tSi?r or Abhainn na Si?ire) is a river in Ireland that flows into the Atlantic Ocean near Waterford after a distance of 185 kilometres (115 mi).[1] Popular with anglers, it holds plentiful reserves of brown trout. While the Suir holds the record for a salmon taken from an Irish river (weighing 57 lb/26 kg, taken on a fly in 1874), as is the case in many other Atlantic rivers, salmon stocks have been in decline in recent years.[2]                                              Rising on the slopes of Devil's Bit Mountain, just north of Templemore in County Tipperary, the Suir flows south through Loughmore, Thurles, Holycross, Golden and Knockgraffon.                                Merging with the River Aherlow at Kilmoyler and further on with the Tar,                                           it turns east at the Comeragh Mountains, forming the border between County Waterford and County Tipperary.  It then passes through Cahir, Clonmel and Carrick-on-Suir before reaching Waterford. Near the Port of Waterford it meets the River Barrow at Cheekpoint to form a wide navigable estuary,  capable of accommodating seagoing vessels up to 32,000 tons dwt. It exits to the sea between Dunmore East and Hook Head.                                                                                                           River Suir at Ardfinnan in Tipperary.  Together with the Nore and the Barrow, the river is one of the trio known as The Three Sisters.  The Suir is known in Irish as the Si?r and it is thought the present spelling in English with the u and i reversed is due to a mistake. Some people therefore feel that the spelling in English should be Siur and this spelling is occasionally seen.[citation needed].

Edmund Spenser (1552–1599) author of the The Fairie Queene, in his writings during the Elizabethan age while domiciled in County Cork, referred to the 'gentle Shure', probable a most accurate spelling and the most phonetically correct of the period.

In the early years of the 21st century, the remains of a very large Viking settlement were found at a bend in the river at Woodstown just upstream from Waterford.                                                           In Clonmel, the Suir floods the local area after very heavy rainfalls falling in the up river catchment of 2,173km2. The Office of Public Works (OPW) completed and installed a Flood Forecasting System  which was used to forecast flooding in January 2008 and January 2009, the flooding of January 2009 being a 1 in 5 year event.  Phase 1 of the Clonmel Flood defence (1-100 year) which stated in 2007 is scheduled for completion in late 2009  and phase two and three as one contract by 2011/2012.  The flood defence consists of demountable barriers, walls and earth banks.  The Gashouse Bridge, Coleville Road, Davis Road, the quays and the Old Bridge are generally the worst affected areas.  Clonmel is not tidal.  The tide turns above the Miloko chocolate crumb factory in Carrick-on-Suir. The flood waters spill onto the land above Miloko on the County Waterford side of the river. Carrick-on-Suir is tidal and has a 1-50 year flood defence. The Office of Public Works (OPW) now plan to install a 1-200 year flood defence where the river Suir flows through Waterford city.                                          Where the river flows through south County Kilkenny, near the town of Mooncoin, was written one of the most famous Irish ballads, called The Rose of Mooncoin, which includes the lines "On the banks of the Suir, that flows down by Mooncoin".

Cork 15th 16th 17th century 20th century

Kerry 20th century

Limerick 15th 16th 17th century

Galway 15th 16th 17th century

Roscommon 12th century dowells

Donegal 15th 16th 17th century

Ulster 12th century dowells 

 

All began as Viking settlements and even after their absorption into the gaelic culture the commercial interests of the newcomers kept them centred in these areas

 

1054ad dubhgall ua haedhagain lord of ui niallan was slain by ua laithen

1063 teige obrien son of brian boru deposed in 1063 he fled to rome with some sources claiming he granted pope urban ii the irish crown this is controversial however

1069ad aedh son of dubhgall vice abbot of chluain fiachna died

1080ad numbers of the men of teathbha of muintir gearadhain and of the cairbre men came upon a plundering excursion into ui failghe and they arrived at the termon of cill achaidh  the ui failghe overtook them and slew gillamuire ua ciardha lord of cairbre and aedh grandson of dubhgall mac fhinnbhairr chief of muintir geradhain and others of the nobility besides them

1150 nicolas breakspear Denmark given brian borus royal kingship ring by brudar admiral of danish fleet 1013 

1154ad   henry ii 21 royal family monarchy plantagenets   thomas beckett  john of salisbury individual virtuous divine right married eleanor

1155 john of Sainsbury (Canterbury) meets pope Adrian Nicolas breakspear rumoured handed over a

           Gold ring with an emerald royal kingship along with royal priesthood and bull henry ii angevin

           Line authority over Ireland his mother matilda did not want him to implement it  

 

1160ad king of Dublin named brodur son of porkel who was killed in 1160   

 

1164ad the mcdowell family in Ireland are our doyle cousins and are descended from the Danish Vikings who settled in Argyll and the western islands of Scotland their great ancestor was somerled a Viking word meaning summer warrior he was master of Argyll on the west coast of Scotland and he was killed in battle against the scots in 1164ad

Scottish gaels from the Hebrides fionnghall and sometimes the hiberno normans or old English were also called seangholl old foreigners to difference themselves from the dubhghoill the new foreigners or dark foreigners who came to Ireland during tudor conquest of Ireland 

 

 

1166ad dermot macmurrough ousted by tiernan orourke

 

1167ad dermot macmurrough king of leinster was driven from his territory by roderick oconnor high king of ireland he then sought assistance from the norman welsh and succeeded in enlisting to his cause richard de clare strongbow earl of pembroke while returning to ireland dermot visited saint davids (church) where he was hospitably received by david fitzgerald (son of gerald of windsor and nesta his wife ) bishop of the diocese    according to burkes peerage the bishop perusaded his brother maurice fitzgerald (son of nesta and gerald fitzwalter of windsor) and his half brother robert fitzstephen (son of nesta and stephen castellan of cardigan) dermot macmurrough offered to give maurice fitzgerald and his half brother robert fitzstephen the land of wexford if they would help him regain his kingdom

1167ad summer dermot achieved the promise of substantial aid evidently however the prospect of waiting a year for the recovery of his position was too much for the irish chieftain after concluding his agreement with robert fitzstephen he immediately contacted richard fitz-godebert a fleming from near haverford who apparently commanded a small body of mercenaries    pre preinvasion dermot mcmurrough and flemings under richard fitzgodebert 

1167ad august at any rate dermot and fitz-godebert and his small body of troops sailed from saint davids in august and landed in leinster

 

1168ad where they were defeated southeast of carlow town in 1168 by the high king of ireland ruari oconnor and his ally tiernan orourke the same who had ousted him in 1166 but the victors were generous and dermot was allowed to retain the chieftainship of his own small tribe and retired to ferns the small mercenary band returned to wales where they no doubt spread the word of dermots defeat and the terms of the peace he had accepted

 

1168ad      to assist macmurrough with their forces maurice oregan a native of leinster was employed by dermot mac murrough king of leinster as his ambassador to strongbow and the norman nobles of south wales to solicit their aid in the recovery of his kingdom      oregan wrote in irish a history of the anglo irish invasion as he himself witnessed from the year 1168ad to the seige of limerick   deal made with the sons and relatives of nesta (wife of gerald fitzwalter of windsor) to recapture the kingdom of dermot macmurrough but it was the father in law of one of nesta sons half welsh half norman that took the lead and that was richard de clare strongbow a norman except for strongbow the invaders were descendants of nesta verch thys the welsh princess who had sons by king henry 1 -

gerald fitzwalter of windsor

stephen the castellan of cardigan   

 

 

1169ad may 1st wexford bannow island 1st landing robert fitzstephen leader of the first landing son of stephen castellan of cardigan and his wife nesta with meridith fitzrobert ralf fitzrobert geoffrey fitzrobert----following up on his promise of aid robert fitzstephen landed about the 1st may 1169 with three ships of norman welsh and flemish forces about 400 strong on the southern coast of county wexford at bannow probably bannow island bannow is about halfway between wexford and waterford this is known as the first landing

1169ad may 2nd the following day from 1st maurice de prendergast with a force of about 200 reinforced fitzstephens group 1169ad wexford second landing bannow island maurice de prendergast

1169ad wexford 3rd landing maurice fitzgerald leader of third landing son of gerald fitzwalter of windsor and his wife nesta  maurice fitzgerald entered the invasion with two ships of armed followers and with the aid of his norman allies landed at wexford and took the town of dublin

william fitzmaurice (son in law of richard strongbow de clare) (grandson)

gerald fitzmaurice grandson

thomas fitzmaurice grandson

maurice fitzmaurice grandson

david fitzgerald (bishop of saint davids) (son of gerald and nesta)

william fitzgerald (lord of carew castle) ( son of gerald and nesta)

1169ad normans made a settlement in ireland strongbow richard de clare

1170 the coming of the anglo normans

Carlow baronies or cantreds

1 carlow

2 forth

3 idrone east doyle territory

4 Idrone west Following the norman invasion the kavanaghs descendants of the macmurrough clan held this territory then known as hy cabanagh or ui cavenagh

5. rathvilly

6. st mullins lower

7. st mullins upper

1170ad may 1st wexford baginbun 4th landing leader raymond fitzwilliam le gros (grandson of gerald and nesta)

griffin fitzwilliam (grandson of gerald and nesta)

angareta fitzgerald (daughter of gerald and nesta)

1170ad waterford passage 5th landing richard strongbow de clare

after the taking of dublin maurice fitzgerald and his youthful sons gerard and alexander together with strongbow and a small english force were beseiged for two months by roderick oconnor king of ireland and a huge army while the port of dublin was blockaded by a fleet of thirty manx vessels (from isle of man) in this emergency by maurices advise and earnest and inspiriting exhortations the beleaguered garrison determined to trust to their superior warlike prowess and daring and regardless of the disparity of numbers to encounter the foe   the bold exploit was crowned with sucess the irish were completely defeated and the king roderick with difficulty escaped  one of the results was that maurice was granted the middle barony of offelan in county kildare (called naas) as well as wicklow maurice appears to have been a capable administrator as well as a keen soldier to him was due the making of youghal as a medieval town youghal is in county cork he colonised it with citizens of bristol built its fortifications and perhaps founded saint marys maurice fitzgerald is considered to be the progenitor of the irish fitzgeralds for 20 generations and until 1641 maurices descendants were lords of kerry and lixnaw ireland lixnaw is in the northern part of county kerry   

 

 

1171ad waterford crook 6th landing king henry ii

1171ad dermot macmurrough died in 1171ad his foreign son in law strongbow suceeded to the kingdom of leinster

1172ad henry ii formally granted the kingdom of leinster to strongbow sin de clair strongbow granted or subinfeudated the lands of leinster to his knights and barons according to the song of dermot the lands of the modern kings county offaly east of tullamore were granted to robert de birmingham but only a small portion of this district was at first taken from the oconors faly and the original birmingham fief appears to have been confined to tethmoy of which they were known as barons this district was comprised in the baronies of warrenstown and the northern part of coolestown in kings county the barony of offaly granted to de birmingham comprehended the modern baronies of upper and lower philipstown geashill warrenstown coolestown and the baronies of portnahinch and tinnahinch in queens county the liberty the lord of a liberty was a royal agent with delegated jurisdiction of leinster was divided into four counties or shires wexford carlow kilkenny and kildare that part of the county east of tullamore and at present in the diocese of kildare and leighlin now the baronies of philipstown warrenstown and coolestown and formerly part of the kingdom of leinster now became part of the medieval county of kildare gerald fitzmaurice the ancestor of the earls of kildare married eva daughter of robert de birmingham the anglo normans came as far as geashill where they erected a motte or castle but it is probable that the area remained march country always liable to constant inroads from the unconquered irish but the normans seem to have held out until the bruce invasion 1315ad when it was clear that much of leix and kings county offaly was lost to the invader

                                at about the same time hugh de lacy was granted the kingdom of meath that part of the modern kings county offaly between birr and durrow and incorporating the baronies of ballycowan ballyboy and eglish is in the diocese of meath and formerly part of the kingdom of meath was granted to hugh de lacy by henry ii the boundaries of the kingdom of meath are approximately those of the present dioceses of meath and clonmacnoise de lacy was lord of the liberty of meath sub infeudated in the same way as strongbow in leinster and granted portions of his territory to his friends the cantred of ardnurcher he gave to meiler fitzhenry the area between birr and the hill of uisnesch also called fear ceall and the territory of the cineal fiachach or the omolloys

                                gerald fitzmaurice fitzgerald the second son of maurice fitzgerald and alice de montgomery grandson of gerald fitzwalter of windsor and nesta married eve de bermingham relative of robert de bermingham who was one of the invader becomes first baron offaly

 

1173ad henry ii ireland

1173 following the example of dermod maccarthy mor king of south munster he made henry ii king of England a tender of his submission on the banks of the suir

Woe worth that hour woe worth that day that cost the freedom of the gael

And shame to those who broke the trust in them reposed by inis fail

Anno Mundi three thousand five hundred, to their submission to the Crown of England in the person of King Henry the Second; who, being also of the Milesian Race by Maude, his mother, was lineally descended from Fergus M?r MacEarca, first King of Scotland, who was descended from the said Heremon - so that the succession may be truly said to continue in the Milesian Blood from before Christ one thousand six hundred and ninety-nine years down to the present time  

Heber and heremon the chief leading men remaining of the eight brothers sons of milesius aforesaid divided the kingdom between them allotting a proportion of land to their brother amergin who was their arch priest druid or magician and to their nephew heber donn and to the rest of their commanders and became jointly the first of one hundred and eighty three kings or sole monarchs of the gaelic milesian or Scottish race that ruled and governed Ireland successively for two thousand eight hundred and eighty five years from the first year of their reign anno mundi three thousand five hundred to their submission to the crown of England in the person of king henry the second who being also of the milesian race by maude his mother was lineally descended from Fergus mor macearca first king of Scotland who was descended from the said heremon    

The doyles are descendants of the Vikings who settled along the seacoast in pre-norman times and in fact the doyles are and where more numerous in areas adjacent to the sea coast which tends to confirm this view 

1200s the dowels and mcdowells are most common in Roscommon and ulster where they first settled in ad1200s

 

1240 a branch of this family mcdowell settled in Ireland in the ad 1240s initially they served as galloglass professional mercenary soldiers for the oconnor clans in the province of Connacht for the next 300 years or so the mcdowells are recorded in various ancient irish records as professional soldiers serving a number of different irish warlords in various parts of Ireland  the modern English language version of dubh-ghaill in Ireland today is doyle odoyle or dowell mcdowell and in Scotland it is dougall or macdougall   in ulster and Roscommon these names now exist as mcdowell and dowell and are carried on by the descendants of the original immigrant irish scots norse galloglass mercenaries  

 

1266ad Argyll and the western isles were not ceded to Scotland by the king of Norway until 1266ad

 

1291ad eoghan o dubhgaill is recorded in Waterford in 1291ad

 

From the 17th century ad on they were numerous in the armies of Europe and later britian

 

1690 following the failure of the jacobite rebellion of 1690ad many doyles fled into exile with the wild geese and took up arms against England in the service of france spain and Austria there were 15 regiments in the French army alone  

 

The name doyle and in the days gone by odoyle stand high in the list of irish surnames arranged in order of numerical strength holding twelfth place in Ireland though now widely distributed it was always most closely associated with the counties of southeast leinster Wicklow wexford Carlow in which it is chiefly found today doyle is a surname of irish origin the name is an Anglicisation of the irish o dubhghaill meaning descendant of dughgall

Doyles found in ulster maybe of Scottish descent as the name was used for macdowell

Principal locations Dublin wexford Wicklow Carlow Kerry cork  

 

1819 birth elizabeth dycher co louth approximate date from her death certificate 1904 -see dycher line of county louth 

???? thomas dycher and his wife (alicia tbc) plus all the family elizabeth thomas william matthew and alicia leave from county louth and move to county carlow thomas was a police officer 1825-1846 mark dycher so he must have been transferred from louth to carlow at sometime during 1834 more research required   

1834 december the first record of thomas dycher (b1791-d1867) in carlow dates from december 1834 he was a witness at a friends wedding thomas was a police officer 1825-1846 mark dycher so he must have been transferred from louth to carlow at sometime during 1834 more research required 

1836 september 8th county carlow con elizabeth dycher b1819 confirmed dunleckney county carlow 

???? mark dycher the youngest of the two children offspring of thomas and alicia maiden surname unknown see below

1836 october 15th county carlow birth isabella dycher bagenalstown county carlow daughter of thomas dycher b1791 and alicia dycher maiden surname unknown isabella sixth of seven children of thomas dycher -mark dycher to confirm documentary source record of this date and event -mark do you have the address of the birth place

1836 november 6th county carlow baptism baptized isabella dycher dunleckney county carlow -mark dycher to confirm of the documentary source for this date and event -mark do you have the name of the church   

trying to locate the births of the following persons from  bagenalstown see below  

1838/1849 county carlow birth james dycher bagenalstown county carlow son of alicia dycher maiden surname unknown and thomas dycher   alicia is the mother of seventh of the seven children of thomas dycher -mark dycher could you advise me of your documentary source evidence for this date and event -do you have an address of the birth place   

1845 november 24th carlow marraige william doyle tradesman resident bagenalstown wedding to elizabeth dycher at st andrews church bagenalstown    witnessed by patrick lyons and catherine lyons -  elizabeth eleanor dycher-documentary evidence record at saint andrews to be obtained   

1846 may 11th return of the police reward and supernannuation fund in ireland rank or employment sub constable name thomas dycher £2;00;00 

1846 december 31st rate of pension or gratuity per annum £17;00;00 amount received within the year ending 31st december 1846 £5;12s;11d   commencement of service october 1825 date of retirement 31st may 1846 aged at date of retirement 54 years cause of retirement medical certificate of unfitness for further service constabulary office dublin castle 19th march 1847 d mcgregor lg circa thomas dycher was an ric police officer (1825-1846) thomas dycher b1791 and becomes weighmaster bagenalstown weighmaster appointed by mr bagenal     county carlow 1 constable county inspector clerk 1 constable paymaster clerk 5 subconstables in charge of officer horses grooming and care of such horse circa 1846 thomas dycher b1791 was a royal irish constabulary police officer (1825-1846) and becomes a weighmaster bagenalstown -see dycher line county louth

1847 february 2nd baptized helena doyle bagenalstown county carlow daughter of elizabeth dycher doyle and william doyle -mark dycher to confirm what documentary record was used is it the record held at saint andrews church bagenalstown or another source

1847-1864 griffith valuation thomas dycher of dunleckney in chapel street seanmacd that may be where the lodge is   

1848 june 25th dunleckney registrar page 56 birth edward doyle son of william doyle and elizabeth dycher doyle sponsor patrick lyon and mary ann connolly 

1848 june 25th county carlow baptized edward doyle bagenalstown son of elizabeth eleanor dycher doyle and william doyle -mark dycher could you advise the documentary source for this date and event 

1851 december 3rd county carlow clonmelsh marraige william dycher aged 30-mark dycher my ancestor aged 30 is problematic wedding to sarah worthington in clonmelsh county carlow but his death and burial records are different see 1891 grooms fathers name and surname thomas dycher rank and profession of father retired policeman -mark do you have the name of the church this wedding took place in and the wedding certificate -is it the brides home town  powerstown county carlow -is there a possibility that william doyle and elizabeth eleanor dycher doyle attended-after they married william and sarah lived in carlow town---latest ---schedule G registrars district of carlow 1851 marraige solemnized at the church of clonmelsh in the parish of clonmelsh in the county of carlow no 5 when married december the third 1851 name and surname william dycher aged 30 bachelor carpenter residence at time of marraige bagenalstown fathers name and surname thomas dycher rank or profession of father retired policeman name and surname sarah worthington aged 24 spinster residence at the time of marraige powerstown fathers name and surname charles worthington rank or profession of father farmer married in the church of clonmelsh according to the rites and ceremonies of the united church of england and ireland with license by me joseph g franklin this marraige was solemnized between us william dycher and sarah worthington in the presence of us charles murphy and william m mcapley  

1852 june 26th county carlow baptized thomas doyle bagenalstown son of elizabeth eleanor dycher doyle and william doyle -mark dycher what is your documentary record for this event is it the one held at saint andrews bagenalstown or another document source other than this one

1852 august 25th con alicia dycher b1834 confirmed dunleckney county carlow -mark dycher do you have the documentary record for this date and event

1852 august 28th death there is a death record for alicia dated 28th august 1852 but i mark dycher think it is a transcript error appears to be a confirmation record probably thomas and alicias daughters alicia born about 1835 -mark dycher link to be looked at

1852 december 14th circa thomas dycher b1791 was a weighmaster bagenalstown county carlow till 1852 aged 61 years mr thomas dycher examined what is your occupation i am weighmaster mr thomas dycher by whom were you appointed by mr philip bagenal the proprietor of the market did you get a scale of fees i got the scale used previously and i continued the same charges have you a list posted up i have i weigh only potatoes a little corn in the spring season and turnips what are your charges i charge up to twelve stone of potatoes 1d up to twenty four stone and 11d above that what for corn one penny for fourteen stone up to twenty four stone what for turnips for an ass's cart load 1d and 2d and for a horses cart load 3d do you weigh meal very little 5d was all i got the last day what are your receipts for the year not more than 15s a year do you keep a book no do you give the seller a ticket i do when it is demanded suppose it is not demanded i mark it on the sack with chalk or upon his hat yes sometimes what is your system of weighing potatoes down weight both four pounds what deduction half a stone on the barrel and over that a stone and the weight of the sack yes suppose there were four pounds standing beam would you throw it out i would not i would let the buyer and seller regulate it how do you weigh corn i take the gross weight and leave the deduction to the buyer and seller have you a four pound weight for potatoes i never used since the potatoe famine i suspect you never weigh lower than half a stone is that the case it is then it must be half a stone down or nothing it must if the sack weighed twenty four stone six pounds would you knock out the six pounds i would and then take a stone from it yes then twenty three stone is all the seller would be paid for   that is all   michael mahony inspector was there ever a butter market here there was seven years under the old act did the weighmaster get compensated he didnt because he did not get his ticket registered under the government system 

1852 griffith valuation of ireland parish of dunleckney town of bagenalstown thomas dycher kilree street house office yard and pound the new road garden chapel street work weighmaster                                                                                    28/5 kilree street thomas dycher                                                                                                                                                         28/6 kilree strret thomas dycher                                                                                                                                                           28/7 kilree street thomas dycher                                                                                                                                                                                           .... 11 kilree street william doyle house office yard                                                                                                                         28/13 kilree street thomas dycher pound                                                                                                                                         19/31 kilree street thomas dycher                                                                                                                                                       28/10 chapel street thomas dycher                                                                                                                                                    28/8 the new road thomas dycher                                                                                                                                                       ....22 stone cutter lane william doyle 

1854 february 26th county carlow baptized michael doyle bagenalstown son of elizabeth eleanor dycher doyle and william doyle -mark dycher what documentary evidence are you using is it the one at saint andrews church bagenalstown or a different document source 

1854 landed estates court rentals ireland lot no 2 bagenalstown house thomas dycher quanity in irish measure 8 1/2 p quantity in english statute measure 14 p yearly rent 15s valuation of mr burtchael c.e. 10s 6d gale days 25th march 29th september tenant year to year ending 29th september in each year 

1857 march 5th dunleckney marraige alicia dycher and george burley brides father name and surname thomas dycher rank or profession of father pensioner of police area carlow bagenalstown church of ireland parish church congregation dunleckney marraige george burley of carlow and alicia dycher of bagenalstown 5 march 1857 when married husband name george burley address residence at time of marraige carlow occupation sub constable police father john burley farmer mother not registered age full age martial status bachelor wifes name alicia dycher address residence at time of marraige bagenalstown occupation dressmaker father thomas dycher pensioner of police mother not registered age full age martial status spinster witness 1 thos dycher witness for husband witness 3 wm dycher witness for wife marraige solemnized at bagenalstown in the parish of dunleckney in county of carlow no 40 married in the church of dunleckney according to the rites and cermonies of the united church of england and ireland after licence by me joseph barclay curate this marraige was solemnized between us geo burley alicia dycher in the presence of us thomas dycher wm dycher note in margin april 14th 1857 note on side of page george burley see his signature and the sister duplicate book 

???? birth teresa doyle named on thomas doyles marraige record see 1881 

1864 december 21st painestown saint anne marraige thomas dycher and elizabeth tuthill grooms fathers name and surname thomas dycher rank and profession of father pensioner  area carlow church of ireland parish church congregation painestown saint anne marraige thomas dycher of carlow and elizabeth tuthill of straw hall carlow on 21st december 1864 husband name thom dycher address residence at time of marraige parish carlow occupation pensioner father thomas dycher pensioner mother not registered age full age martial status widower wifes name elizabeth tuthill address residence at time of marraige straw hall parish of saint anne carlow occupation not registered father benjamin tuthill house painter mother not registered age full age martial status spinster witness benjamin tuthill witness for husband richard allen witness for wife 1864 marraige solemnized at district church in the parish of saint anne in the county of carlow no 3 when married 21st december 1864 married in the district church according to the rites and ceremonies of the united church of england and ireland by licence by me james jameson this marraige was solemnized between us thomas dycher elizabeth tuthill in the presence of benjamin tuthill and richard allen 

1865 july 13th dunleckney marraige of isabella dycher and edward earle brides father name and surname thomas dycher rank or profession of father late of the constabulary force  area carlow bagenalstown church of ireland parish church congregation dunleckney marraige edward eade or earle of bagenalstown and isabella dycher of bagenalstown on 13th july 1865 husband name edward earle full age bachelor address residence at time of marraige bagenalstown occupation late royal artillery father william earle farmer mother not registered wifes name isabella dycher address bagenalstown occupation not registered father thomas dycher late of  constabulary force mother not registered age full age martial status spinster witness 1 humphrey worthington witness to husband 3. william dycher witness to wife 1865 marraige solemnized at bagenalstown in the parish of dunleckney in the county of carlow no 65 when married july 13th 1865 married in the church of bagenalstown according to the rites and ceremonies of the united church of england and ireland by licence by me charles james grogan vicar this marraige was solemnized between us edwd earle and isabella dycher in the presence of us humprey worthington powerstown william dycher

1865 august 27th birth of twins charles and alica dycher to william dycher and sarah worthington dycher see dycher line county louth    

1865 october 30th county carlow baptized william doyle bagenalstown son of elizabeth eleanor dycher doyle and william doyle -mark dycher i william have a document recording evidence of a date of 1866 what is your documentary record evidence for this date and event --mark this was erroneous as document was for a hogan --see below superintendent registrar district carlow registrars district bagenalstown 1865 births registered in the district of bagenalstown in the union of carlow in the county of carlow no 640 date of birth thirtieth october 1865 place of birth kilree street bagenalstown name william sex male name and surname and dwelling place of father william doyle kilree street bagenalstown name and surname and maiden surname of mother elizabeth doyle formerly dycher rank or profession of father slater signature qualification and residence of informant william doyle kilree street bagenalstown father when registered seventh november 1865 signature of registrar rich lewis registrar   

1865 december 16th carlow hanover road birth catherine alicia dycher daughter of elizabeth tuthill dycher and thomas dycher sergeant of militia---pensioner --- 

1866 april 4th baptism catherine alicia dycher daughter of elizabeth dycher and thomas dycher 

1867 may 15th circa death second quarter april may bagenalstown county carlow death thomas dycher b1791 i mark dycher dont know the exact date of thomas death    superintendent registrars district carlow registrars district bagenalstown 1867 deaths registered in the district of bagenalstown in the union of carlow in the county of carlow no 324 date of death fifteenth may 1867 place of death lodge bagenalstown name and surname thomas dycher sex male condition widower age last birthday 76 years rank or profession or occupation police pensioner certified cause of death and duration of illness disease of the urinary organs john t??? certified signature qualification and residence of informant james dycher lodge bagenasltown present at death when registered twenty first may 1867 signature of registrar rich lewis registrar 

1867 may 17th buried dunleckney county carlow thomas dycher b1791 estimated birth year about 1791 date of registration 1867 death age 76 registration district carlow death country ireland volume 8 fhi film number 101583 dunleckney parish church of ireland thomas dicher address bagenalstown age 76 date of death unknown date of burial 17th may 1867 

1881 july 13th marraige i mark dycher believe thomas doyle married mary dicher on 13th july 1881 in dublin mary was the daughter of james christopher dicher and mary kennedy where james christopher (1828-1868) was the son of james dicher ---teresa doyle named on thomas doyles marraige record -thomas doyle and mary dicher second cousins may explain dispensation notice of their marraige record requires further research mark could you advise the church they were wedded in and where it is located children thomas james charles edward william mary   james and edward had a daughter named alicia   some of these families end up in ontario canada mark dycher which families ended up in ontario 

1889 july 22nd edward doyle residence bagenalstown tradesman (his father william doyle tradesman and mother eliza dycher residence bagenalstown) married at st lazerains church in leighlinbridge leighlin county carlow to maria ryan residence ballyknockan leighlinbridge spinster dressmaker (her father john ryan and mother ellen rice residence ballyknockan)    celebrant james e delany cc   witnessed by jeremiah bolger bagenalstown   and   kate rice ballyknockan   catherine rice moanduff           to be confirmed is ballyknockan in old leighlin or county laois

1890 may 4th leighlinbridge birth william co carlow 

1891 circa death of william dycher his death and burial records say he was aged 60 in 1891 giving a birth year of 1831 -mark dycher what cemetery was he buried in and where what is the date of this event 

1897 superintendent registrars district south Dublin registrars district palmerstown births registered in the district of palmerstown in the union of south Dublin in the county of Dublin no 500 1897 seventh april 5 ethna terrace Emmett road name Edward sex male name and surname and dwelling place of father Edward doyle 5 ethna terrace Emmett road name and surname and maiden surname of mother maria bridget doyle formerly ryan rank or profession of father stucco plasterer signature qualification and residence of informant maria bridget doyle mother 5 ethna terrace Emmett road when registered thirty first may 1897 signature of registrar ??robw?? Andrew registrar 

????  inchicore dublin birth edward 8 woodfield terrace new kilmainham parish saint jude dublin now 2012 st michael

1899 october 23rd inchicore dublin birth michael joseph 8 woodfield terrace new kilmainham parish saint jude dublin

1901 march 31st census residence 8 woodfield terrace new kilmainham parish saint jude dublin edward, mary, william, edward, and  michael joseph--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------residence house 2 in railway road bagenalstown carlow elizabeth doyle aged 81 (b1820 county louth) widow roman catholic and housekeeper , helena aged 54 daughter, william aged 35 son plasterer   

1901 march 31st census ireland residence potatoe market carlow sarah dycher aged 70 widow born county carlow elizabeth dycher aged 31 born county carlow dressmaker alice dycher aged 28 born county carlow dressmaker annie jane aged 26 born county carlow dressmaker sarah elizabeth dycher obrien granddaughter of sarah dycher aged 19 born county carlow shop assistant 

1904 september 6th   2 in railway road bagenalstown carlow death of elizabeth doyle aged 85 years widow of a slater registered september 27th 1904 informant  present at death william doyle son (b1866) bagenalstown

1905 the last of their daughters left carlow and moved to dublin after sarah worthington dycher death they can be seen in the 1911 census of ireland

1905 sarah worthington dycher granddaughter sarah elizabeth dycher obrien named robert granville smyth in 1905 in carlow sarah and roberts descendants live in the us  

1911 sunday april 2nd census residence 2 in station road county carlow william doyle aged 45 (b1866) slater and plasterer single   ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------residence in house number 3 in station road (bagenalstown urban carlow) muine beag (small shubbery) station house railway house road      edward doyle aged 62 ,     maria b ryan doyle aged 54 married 21 years 7 born alive 3 still living ,    edward aged 13 and michael joseph aged 11 

1930s a group of people visited bagenalstown to look for their relatives family home someone recalls that they never found the station road two houses and the community in bagenalstown say they left town  

1930s someone else recollects father william doyle oblate of mary immaculate inchicore (born 1890) corresponding with relatives in long island new york 

any one with information would be glad to hear from you 

liam hua duinn

Wednesday 29th Aug 2012, 09:30AM

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  • Hi William,

    Thanks for posting your information. It creates a great resource for others who are searching.

    Kind regards,

    Genealogy support

     

    cynoconnor

    Wednesday 29th Aug 2012, 09:46AM
  • Births; Carlow

    Alicia; 1865

    Charles; 1864

    William; 1891

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    Deaths;

    Thomas; 1867 (76)

    William; 1891 (60)

    Sarah; 1905

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    Marriage;

    Alicia; 1857 to George Dycher

    2nd marriage;

    Ambrose Cooke

    3rd marriage;

    John Henry Keogh

    4th marriage;

    Robert Murray

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    Marriage;

    Thomas; 1864 to Eliza Anne Glynne

    2nd marriage;

    Elizabeth Tuthill

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    Marraige;

    1880-Mary Anne to Joseph Mc Gowan

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    Marriage;

    1865-Isabell to Erward Earle

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    Landed Estates;

    William; 1880

    Thomas; 1854

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    Slaters Directory; 1894

    Elizabeth

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    seanmacd

    Friday 8th Mar 2013, 11:50AM
  • seanmacd thanks for all that info

    just wondering about charles birth carlow 1864 do you know if this is 1864 or 1865 and if it is 1864 do you have the parents names 

    1857 you write alicia to george dycher marriage and then

    2nd marraige to ambrose cooke--do you have a year----and a church parish 

    3rd marriage to john henry keogh-do you have a year---and a church parish

    4th marraige to robert murray-do you have a year--and a church parish 

    plus seanmacd

    1864 thomas to eliza anne glynne--do you have a month and date---and a church parish 

    liam hua duinn

    Friday 8th Mar 2013, 01:52PM
  • Yes, I agree...what is the source you have foir this information? It's helpful for everyone to post a source.  Thank you!

    nolansheil

    Friday 8th Mar 2013, 04:55PM
  • Those records came froma subscribtion site, no dates are given for the extra marriages.

    You will get all this information from www.familysearch.org

    =====

    Jack

    seanmacd

    Friday 8th Mar 2013, 05:25PM
  • go raibh maith agat   will work on it to see what else connects in 

    liam hua duinn

    Friday 8th Mar 2013, 08:18PM
  • Any Updates on the Doyle Family from Bagenalstown.

    Thomas Codd

    Tuesday 29th Oct 2013, 06:27PM
  • Any Updates on the Doyle Family from Bagenalstown.

    Thomas Codd

    Tuesday 29th Oct 2013, 06:27PM
  • Any Updates on the Doyle Family from Bagenalstown.

    Thomas Codd

    Tuesday 29th Oct 2013, 06:27PM
  • no the line of enquiry stops at 1800 so i decided to go to the source of the clan to see if i can work backwards as you will see from the latest update on message 1 above 

    do you have any additional information to add to this mr T codd

    liam hua duinn

    Tuesday 29th Oct 2013, 07:05PM

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