Ellen Rooney Abt 1853

Hi Gaffa,

Could you please post your message on the following parish pages: http://www.irelandxo.com/group/county-dublin and http://www.irelandxo.com/group/county-cavan

What parish were they married in? Was it in Ireland? What age were they? In order to find birth records, it would greatly help if you had a more precise place of origin.

Here are some records you could checking:

Civil registration records are available from the General Register Office (GRO). These start from 1864. You can access the website here: http://www.groireland.ie/research.htm

You can check for information about the frequency of the name in the mid-19th century and any other variant spellings of the name here: http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/surname/

You could try checking the land records called the Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38) or the later Griffith's Valuation (1848-64). The Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38): Microfilm copies of the books for all of Ireland are available at the National Archives of Ireland (NAI) http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/tithe-applotment-books-and-the-primary-griffith-valuation or the Church of Latter Day Saints (LDS). Griffith's is freely available here: www.askaboutireland.com or here: www.failteromhat.com Failte Romhat has lots of other useful links you could try looking at.

The Tithe Applotment List might be of use to you, or at least interesting for you. These lists constitute the only nationwide survey for the period, and are valuable because the heaviest burden of the tithes to the Established Church, the Church of Ireland, fell on the poorest, for whom few other records survive. The information in the Tithes is quite basic, typically consisting of townland name, landholder's name, area of land and tithes payable. Many Books also record the landlord's name and an assessment of the economic productivity of the land. the tax payable was based on the average price of wheat and oats over the seven years up to 1823, and was levied at a different rate depending on the quality of land. For Parishes where the registers do not begin until after 1850, this information can be useful, as they are often the only surviving early records. They can provide valuable circumstantial evidence, especially where a holding passed from father to son in the period between the Tithe survey and Griffith's Valuation.

1837 Voters. NLI. Ms.1398 (Kildare)

1843 Voters. NAI. OP 1843/53 (Kildare)

Please make sure you link anyone else in your family who is interested in their Irish heritage to our site - and indeed anyone else you know of Irish heritage.

Kind regards,

Sinead Cooney

Genealogist (Ireland XO)

Google irishgenealogy. Search records by the name Ellen Rooney.
There's an address of 68 Church st. Dublin 7. My Ggrans name was Mary Rooney, She lived in North King st. near Church st.
My Mother said the old Family was from near Sallins in Kildare but I'm unsure which side of the Family she was referring to.

Thanks Maggie,

Might have a match, do you have any other relations i.e Phylis Rooney possible sister as a witness to two of the Nicholsons births. Although these are from Ancestry.com

Name:NicholsonGender:FemaleBirth Date:8 Sep 1876Birth Place:Dublin, Dublin, IrelandFather's Name:John NicholsonMother's Name:Ellen RooneyFHL Film Number:255958

Name:NicholsonGender:MaleBirth Date:6 Aug 1874Birth Place:2 North City, Dub, IrelandBaptism Place:2 North City, Dub, IrelandFather's Name:John NicholsonMother's Name:Ellen RooneyFHL Film Number:255909

Regards Gaffa

Hi Maggie,

Have you any other relations of Mary i.e. Jane, as she is mentioned on both James and Mary Nicholsons birth as a witness and I am sure a Phylis was mentioned somewhere as well 

James NICHOLSON, Birth

Gender: Male

Birth Date: 6 Aug 1874 Birthplace [B c St Michan] Dublin Ireland: 2 North City

Recorded in: Dublin, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration

Father: John NICHOLSON Mother: Ellen ROONEY

Witnesses Jane Rooney and B Hindan [Preist]

Source: FHL Film 255909 Dates: 1873 – 1875.

Gaffa

Hi, the nearest I got was-in the 1901 census, Mary Hand (nee Rooney) is living at Ushers Quay in Dublin. She's 40 yrs old here.
In 1911 census, she's 55? Living at Nrth King street with her daughter-my Gran who is married to James Goodwin.
She died in 1939 aged 84, she was living at 25 St. Fintan rd. Cabra at time of death. On Marys Marriage cert, 1883 her Father is listed as Laurence Rooney. I got a baptism record from ifhf online for a Laurence Rooney b. 1855 at Dunderry parish, Co. Meath (Meath shares a border with Kildare).his Father is James Rooney, Mother is Julia White. I can't be 100% sure of this last record. I've never heard the name Nicholson mentioned but could be another branch of the Family. I'm on Facebook under Margaret Doyle Hanley, photo in academic college degree dress if you'd like to look me up.