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My 3x great grandma was Ellen Callaghan born Cork 1831/2. She married a Thomas Brown in Greenwich in 1855.

Her father is listed as Timothy Callaghan. 

She lived in Eltham Kent. At the same address were living John  and Catherine Barry nee Cleary from Timoleague. It has been suggested that the 2 families were connected and I’m trying to find out if Ellen and Timothy Callaghan were also from Timoleague or Clonakilty. Any help is most appreciated.

thanks

David

Hampshire, England 

Adesso

Tuesday 27th Jun 2023, 09:27AM

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  • David:

    The Timoleague RC parish baptismal records do not begin until 1842.

    I searched on the free site irishgenealogy.ie which has church records for the parishes in the Diocese of Cork and Ross including Clonakilty and other parishes in the area. I found four Ellen Callaghan baptismal records between 1825-1835 where the father was Timothy.

    The first was in December 1826 in Cork city mother Honora Cashman

    Second-June 1827 in Kilmurry with mother Julian Murphy 

    Third-Auugust 1833 Tracton Abbey parish mother Mary Hosford

    Fourth-January 1835 Enniskeane mother Joan Wholey

    Do any of these mother's names look familiar? Are you aware of any siblings to Ellen? If the family was from Timoleague we won't find records unless there was a child born 1842 or later.

    Have you tested your DNA?

    Roger McDonnell

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Tuesday 27th Jun 2023, 11:32AM
  • Thanks for that!

    I have another Ellen Callaghan with father Timothy and mother Johanna Leonard for Glentagh Cork birth year 1830.

    I will look into your entries. I have done dna tests but none link to Callaghan.

    I have a 3x great grandad on my dad’s side from Louth/ Dublin via Liverpool  as well. Callaghan being a common name doesn’t help me!

    thanks again

    David

    Adesso

    Tuesday 27th Jun 2023, 11:48AM
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    BTW Roger

    I know the Barry family living at same address were from Timoleague as her children are registered born there. Can you see a link between Catherine Barry nee Cleary or John Barry and Ellen Callaghan?/Timothy Callaghan?

    thanks again

    Adesso

    Tuesday 27th Jun 2023, 11:54AM
  • David:

    Searching for RC church records in Co. Cork is unusual. Records for parishes in the Diocese of Cork and Ross are available for free on the site mentioned earlier. RC parishes in the Diocese of Cloyne generally in the north and East of the county are only available on a subscription site like Roots Ireland, Ancestry.com and FindMyPast.ie   I searched on Roots Ireland and found Ellen Callaghan baptismal records father Timothy in 1829 1830 1831 1832 1833 1835 (one each year) including the record you highlighted. None of those records had a Barry surname for a sponsor.

    I went back to irishgenealogy.ie and searched for a marriage between a John Barry and a Catherine Cleary. I found a marriage in Clonakilty February 24 1857, Is that too late. I didn't know which census record showed the Callaghans and Barrys living together. 

    Roger

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Tuesday 27th Jun 2023, 03:58PM
  • That date for the marriage sounds right.

    Could  you send me the details?

    I was hoping to find Catherine Barry’s mother’s name and John Barry’s mother’s name to see if it’s Callaghan.

    Could you give me the details of the 1830 1831 and 1832 baptisms for Ellen please.

    Much obliged Roger

    ps I saw the marriage on Irish genealogy for 1857 and that’s probably them.

     

     

    Adesso

    Tuesday 27th Jun 2023, 06:18PM
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    Hi Roger

    I have checked the baptisms you gave apart from the 1831 and 1832 ones you mention for Ellen Callaghan with father as Timothy. I can’t locate those!

    Could you please send the details over of the 1831 and 1832 entries.

    Many thanks

    David

     

    Adesso

    Friday 30th Jun 2023, 07:48AM
  • David:

    December 11 1831 Ellen Calin father Timothy Calin mother Mary Bryan Banteer RC church

    November 23 1832 Ellen Callaghan father Timothy Callaghan mother Honora Connell Glantane RC church

    No Barry sponsors

    Roger

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Saturday 1st Jul 2023, 12:11PM
  • Thanks for your help!

    regards

    David

    Adesso

    Saturday 1st Jul 2023, 01:36PM

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