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Am attempting to track down my 3greatgrandfather Capt John Haire who died in Glasslough, Co Monoghan Feb 22 1861.

One death notice which I found in the Topographical Dictionary of Ireland, Co Donegal, Burt Parish read:

"Feb 22, at Glasslough, Co Monoghan, Captain John Haire of 2nd R.G. Battalion, in the 86th year of his age. He was the grandfather of Rev H P Charlton, Burt." I believe this may have also appeared in the Londonderry Sentinel but have not been able to confirm this.

A death notice in Adelaide, South Australia, papers, inserted by his son, Francis Haire A.B. T.C.D., puts him with the 1st Garrison regiment and being 89 years old. He was with Garrison Regiments and came from Tasmania to Adelaide in 1841 (which would make him at least 66!) The reports at the time have him as Capt John Haire of 51st Foot. (The previous redcoats were sent home in disgrace for drunkenness!)

They were all COI.

So if he is the Rev Charlton's grandfather then a daughter of John Haire must have married a Charlton?

Any thoughts anyone?

William O'Reilly

Brisbane, Australia

(of the O'Reillys of Westmeath who emigrated to South Australia in the late 1840's)

thegabba10

Saturday 12th Jul 2014, 10:49PM

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  • Dear William

    Have you managed to find out anything from his military record at all? You could look at the National Archives site in Kew, London or Find my Past:

    Find My Past: http://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-records/british-army-servic…

    National Archives: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/

    Best wishes

    Clare Doyle

    Genealogy Support 

    Clare Doyle

    Friday 18th Jul 2014, 10:56AM
  • According to my research Capt John Haire had 2 children

    Anne Jane b. 1899c Married Isaiah Charlton. Thery had 2 children:

    John Haire Charlton b.1829c and Harcourt Peter Charlton (Rev) b. 1834

    and Francis who married Jane June and emigrated to Australia 1849.

    I am trying to discover what relation Francis Haire Drumcrin (his executor) was to him and

    who were Francis Haire's psrents - (my brick walls)

    margaret71

    Monday 28th Jul 2014, 09:56AM
  • MArgaret71

    It seems we are facing the same brickwall.  Since joining this sight I have a had number of helpfull responses but not THE answer.

    I have been tracking the Haire family associated with Armagh Manor, Ballagh, between Lisniskea and Rosslea. It must be close to Drumcrin so I am hoping for a connection. The Armagh Manor Haires were well known landholders. It is believed they acquired the manor in the early 1800,s. The manor seems to pass after three generarions (James, Robert, James) to cousin William Hamilton Haire, Major Ret.d, then to a nephew of his. In 2012 there is a news article outlining some financial trouble with the Ulster Bankand references a William Haire, 86, and his son William

    The Francis Haire in the probate I have taken to be John's brother but he may be a nephew. This Francis also had a son Francis who is on the Farm in the 1901 census. His son John is there in 1911

    It is john's age which worries me. He was either 86 or 89 (2 sources) when he died in 1861.

    This makes him at least 66 when he reportedly arrived in Adelaide on Garrison duty with the 51st Foot Regiment (and others).

    There are similarities with the Armagh Manor Haires in that a few were educated at Trinity College Dublin, some became reverends and others were military (Major WIlliam Hamilton Haire of Irish Fusiliers) but most of them seem to be later than our John born around 1772

    Will keep searching for any HAires and hope for a probate or an obituary to pop up

    thegabba10

    Wednesday 30th Jul 2014, 04:23AM
  • Francis Haire (executor of Capt John) is buried in Church of Ireland graveyard, Lisnaskea.

    His headstone states he was born 1810, and died 1875. It also states the

    headstone was erected by his son Francis.His wife Martha ........ is also buried there. The townland of

    Drumcrin is about 10/12 miles from Armagh Manor but is not far from Glassdrummond, Lisnaskea

    where Hamilton Haire lived  -  he was a barrister in Dublin, Born 1770 died 1844. He is also buried in the same graveyard as Francis,

    I think Francis was a nephew of Capt John Haire and it may be possible Capt John Haire and this

    Hamilton Haire (barrister) are brothers.

    The Robert Haire you mention was a  brother of Hamilton, Both are sons of James b,1737.d. 1833. This Robert Haire and his son James were also barristers in Dublin but the family seat was Armagh Manor.

    Maj. William Hamilton b.1835 d. 1871. was the eldest son of Rev Hamilton Haire b. 1802c d. 1883.

    Rev H Haire being the son of the Hamilton Haire I have referred to earlier.

    Hope this will help in knocking down your brick walls!!

     

     

    margaret71

    Wednesday 30th Jul 2014, 11:55AM
  • Francis Haire (executor of Capt John) is buried in Church of Ireland graveyard, Lisnaskea.

    His headstone states he was born 1810, and died 1875. It also states the

    headstone was erected by his son Francis.His wife Martha ........ is also buried there. The townland of

    Drumcrin is about 10/12 miles from Armagh Manor but is not far from Glassdrummond, Lisnaskea

    where Hamilton Haire lived  -  he was a barrister in Dublin, Born 1770 died 1844. He is also buried in the same graveyard as Francis,

    I think Francis was a nephew of Capt John Haire and it may be possible Capt John Haire and this

    Hamilton Haire (barrister) are brothers.

    The Robert Haire you mention was a  brother of Hamilton, Both are sons of James b,1737.d. 1833. This Robert Haire and his son James were also barristers in Dublin but the family seat was Armagh Manor.

    Maj. William Hamilton b.1835 d. 1871. was the eldest son of Rev Hamilton Haire b. 1802c d. 1883.

    Rev H Haire being the son of the Hamilton Haire I have referred to earlier.

    Hope this will help in knocking down your brick walls!!

     

     

    margaret71

    Wednesday 30th Jul 2014, 11:55AM
  • Thanks Margaret! Good luck with your search William

    Best wishes

    Clare Doyle

    Genealogy Support 

    Clare Doyle

    Thursday 31st Jul 2014, 11:26AM
  • I may be able to help

    Rodger Charlton

    Charlton

    Friday 18th Sep 2015, 11:46PM
  • margaret71

     

    Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated.  Have visited Donagh old graveyard at Glaslough as well as

    St Salvador at Castle Leslie but did not find a headstone for John Haire died 1861.

     

     

    margaret71

    Thursday 3rd Dec 2015, 11:35PM
  • It may be easier to talk by email

    I have lots of files relating to the Rev Harcourt Peter Charlton and his brother Rev John Haire Charlton

    Both of these men had sons but I have not been able to trace either son

    These are Henry Lyons Charlton and Michael Elliott Charlton respectively

    Let me know - happy to help - Rodger

    Charlton

    Thursday 24th Dec 2015, 09:48AM

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