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My GG Grandfather, John Reid Montgomery was born in Downpatrick and emigrated to Australia in the 1850's. His parents were James Montgomery and Mary Reid. Both were born about 1806 in 'County Doun". James was a sawyer.They had 7 children: John (b abt 1826), Jean (abt 1826), Mary (abt 1827) All born in Ireland. They moved to Liverpool where the other children were born. Margret (abt 1838), Elizabeth (abt 1843) and James (abt 1847). We don't know whether John and Jean were twins. There are three sets of twins among his descendents,

John did an apprenticeship as a sawyer in Liverpool, married and emigrated to Australia with a young family. He settled in Echuca in Victoria where he developed a number of successful businesses and was very active in local affairs. He was a councllor including two terms as Mayor, Chairman of the Water Board, committee member for the school board and the Mechanics Institute. He was very active in the lodges particularly the Loyal Orange Lodge. He was guarantor for the loan to build one of the Churches.

Any help in obtaining more information about John and his family in County Down would be appreciated.

Thanks

Vince

 

doolat

Sunday 4th Jan 2015, 09:29AM

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  • Vince, 

    You don?t say exactly what the family denomination was. From John?s involvement with the Orange Order that indicates a protestant background but that contains a number of possibilities.

    You might be able to find James & Mary?s marriage in church records as well as the baptisms of their children. 

    You say the family lived in Downpatrick. The Church of Ireland in Downpatrick has baptism and marriage records for 1750 ? 1815 and 1818 to 1899. The Presbyterian church has baptism and marriage records from 1827 onwards. The non-subscribing Presbyterian church only has records from 1837. (There may have been earlier records, but if there were, they have been lost).

    The Church of Ireland records are on-line on the rootsireland site but neither of the 2 Presbyterian churches is. For them you would need to go to PRONI in Belfast to look them up.

    I had a look in the street directories for Downpatrick but did not see a James Montgomery sawyer listed. I did note a John & James Montgomery, both sawyers, at 27 Catherine St North, Belfast in 1835.

    http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/street_directories.htm

     

    Elwyn

     

    Ahoghill Antrim

    Sunday 4th Jan 2015, 12:43PM
  • Thank you, Elwyn

    I did some homework on the denomination. John Reid Montgomery was a Warden of the Anglican Church in Echuca.
    However, I drew a blank again with RootsIreland. I will explore PRONI. I didn't realise how much information was there.

    Thanks again

    Vince

    doolat

    Monday 5th Jan 2015, 05:31AM
  • Vince,

    So the Montogomery family may have been Church of Ireland.

    There are 70 parishes in Co Down. If you go through the rootsireland site and see which ones they have (there's alist for each county), you can delete them, and focus on the others which are not on-line. Probably a couple of days work going through them at PRONI. Here?s a link to a list of all the parishes in Co Down:

    http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/MAPS/CoDown…

    Be aware that a lot of early Church of Ireland records were destroyed in the 1922 fire in Dublin, during the civil war. Ironically they had been sent there for safe keeping. So there are quite a few parishes with no records before about 1880.

     

    Elwyn

    Ahoghill Antrim

    Monday 5th Jan 2015, 11:26AM
  • Thanks Elwyn. Let us know how your research is progressing Vince!

    Best wishes

    Clare Doyle

    Genealogy Support 

    Clare Doyle

    Tuesday 20th Jan 2015, 04:01PM
  • Just a thought, which may be wrong direction, but there are Reid and Montgomery families in grangewalls and ballylig town lands close to downpatrick. I know they are much later, but It might be worth exploring griffiths valuations for these 2 town lands to see if there are other family connections. Also ballee, bright and killough gravestone inscriptions. Finally, the freeholders records for these surnames might help if you think there is a townland connection.

    BorrberwBob

    Wednesday 18th Feb 2015, 08:01PM

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