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Looking to find information on my Great Grandfather Charles Molloy who farmed and raised his family in Graigue, Mountmellick. He was born about 1815 and died in 1882. He married Ellen Mooney in 1845. My grandfather Laurence was their youngest child and migrated to Australia in 1885.

We have no information on where Charles was born, his siblings or his parents. However, naming conventions, which Charles and Ellen seem to have followed, suggest Charles' father was James Molloy.

owever, we have Ancestry DNA matches to a number of people with Molloy ancestors in their family trees. A number of these point to Rahan and Tullamore in Offaly. Names of these include John Murrough Molloy (b. Rahan 1864) and his father James, grandfather Felix; Francissi Molloy (b 1815); Patrick Molloy (Tullamore, 1859-1917) and James Molloy (b 1837 Rahan).

Appreciate any help. Peter

Peter L Molloy

Friday 17th Jun 2022, 07:45AM

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    Friday 17th Jun 2022, 12:16PM
  • Quick search finds a possible sibling .

    A Charles Molloy was baptised on 17th July 1853 in Mountmellick Parish to parents Charles Molloy and Ellen Mooney .

    Thats from a transcription on Find My Past although looking at the Mountmellick register I was unable to find it .

     

    Ellen seems to be living in Graigue on 1901 census with a son (Patrick aged 50 ) and 2 nephews Edward Flanagan and Joseph Langton .

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Queen_s_Co_/Graigue/Gr…

     

    A Patrick Molloy baptised 11th June 1848 Mountmellick Parish to same named parents .

    James Molloy baptised Mountmellick 5th July 1846 to  parents  Charles Molloy and Ellen Mooney

    Joseph Molloy baptised Mountmellick 17th March 1850  parents Charles Molloy and Ellen Mooney

    Mary Molloy baptised Mountmellick 2nd November 1851 to parents Charles Molloy and Ellen Mooney .

    Edward Molloy 16th August 1857 

    John Molloy 5th March 1858

    Arthur Molloy 29th May 1859

    Laurence Molloy 14th November 1865 .

     

    agha

    Friday 17th Jun 2022, 05:40PM
  • See on Charles Molloy death entry (25th December 1882 ) the informant is an Edward Flanagan ,Nyra . 

    On 1911 census there is a Patrick Molloy aged 63 living in Graigue ,along with his brother James aged 64 and their niece Kate Flanagan aged 23 .

     

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Queen_s_Co_/Graigue/Gr…

     

    Marriage entry for John Flanagan of Nyra and Mary Molloy of Graigue on 31st January 1882 .

     

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_re…

     

     

    agha

    Friday 17th Jun 2022, 05:46PM
  • Oops after reading your post again see its siblings etc for Charles Molloy born c.1825 you are seeking ,not those of Laurence Molloy born 1865 .

    agha

    Friday 17th Jun 2022, 05:54PM
  • In 1851-52, there were four Charles Molloys listed in Griffiths Valuation of Laois; one was in Graigue.

    Griffith Molloy Charles Forest Upper Castlebrack Co. Laois
    Griffith Molloy Charles Baunaree Clonenagh and Clonagheen Co. Laois
    Griffith Molloy Charles Graigue Rosenallis Co. Laois
    Griffith Molloy Charles Mountmellick (Forge Lane) Rosenallis Co. Laois

    I hope this is helpful.

    Patricia

    Friday 17th Jun 2022, 05:55PM
  • There is a baptism listed on Find My Past for a Charles Molloy April 1816 in Rahan Parish to a Patt Molloy and Honor Kelly .

    agha

    Friday 17th Jun 2022, 06:13PM
  • The Charles Molloy in Graigue is farming 55 acres .Its a farm on the left hand side of the road about a mile from Mountmellick on the main road to Tullamore .

    agha

    Friday 17th Jun 2022, 10:01PM
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    Thanks so much agha and Patricia for your rapid response. I realise I should have provided more information in my message, as I have fairly complete information on Charles' and Ellen's children.

    The farm you picked out is the correct lod family one. I have uploaded a picture of my mum and the owner, Mrs Scott, taken when my parents visited in 1983. As you said, right on the N80. The home is no longer occupied, so in a state of some disrepair - distant cousin on great grandmother side sent a phote last year.

    Thanks for pointing to the Charles Molloy baptism in Rahan in 1816 - more than I had managed to find. However, I think it is probably not my great grandfather. Charles and Ellen's first child was James and second child named Patrick after Ellen's father Patt Mooney; so I expect that Charles father likely James Molloy.

    Thans for the help and glad to receive any other pointers.

    Peter

    Peter L Molloy

    Sunday 19th Jun 2022, 05:44AM
  • To be honest it was the Graigue bit that caught my eye .My late mother was born and raised in Graigue ,about 500m from Scotts .Have cousins still living there .Have a local history book of Mountmellick here somewhere written by John Joe Dunne from Graigue .Will take a look and see if any mention of Molloys .

    agha

    Sunday 19th Jun 2022, 09:19PM
  • Thanks agha

    That's really interesting. Would be very interested in anything from the local history book.

    A Dunne family were at house 14 in the 1901 and 1911 censuses, with the Molloys at house 14. Interestingly, and causing some confusion in a couple of Ancestry family trees, there was an Ellen Dunne Molloy in the Dunne household, with Ellen (Mooney) Molloy being head of the the Molloy household. Our great grandmother Ellen died in 1902, while the oher Ellen Molloy died in 1909. Ellen Dunne had married Bernard Molloy (of Tullamore), a widower, at Rosenallis in 1874. There is a monument to his first wife Mary Molloy in the Mountmellick graveyard. As far is we know there is no direct connection of Bernard Molloy with our family.

    Best wishes, Peter

    Peter L Molloy

    Monday 20th Jun 2022, 03:35AM
  • It's possible the MM Heritage Society might be able to assist you:

    https://www.facebook.com/Mountmellick-Heritage-Society-343982605713739/

    Patricia

    Monday 20th Jun 2022, 05:20PM
  • Thanks for the Mountmellick Heritage site tip. Posting a query there. Was the John Joe Dunne book you mentioned "Sparks from the Embers", which I see I can still buy, or another specifcally local one? Seems that John Joe Dunne is quite a local identity - listened to him talking about his share dairy farming.

    Thanks again

    Peter - ps. expecting to be visiting Ireland next year to chase up a few things in person.

    Peter L Molloy

    Wednesday 22nd Jun 2022, 08:27AM
  • Hi Peter ,

     

    Thats the book .Have a copy here somewhere so when I find it will take a look and see if any mention of Molloy in Graigue .

    agha

    Friday 24th Jun 2022, 10:05PM
  • I wonder if these Molloys' are related to my great grandmotherx2 Jane Molloy from Mountmellick who married Daniel Brennan 26 Sep 1867 in Carlow records.

    From what I know so far is that she was born in Mountmellick around 1847 to Tim Molloy and Sally Geoghegan. She and Daniel Brennan are recorded has living in Ballickmoyler, Laois where they had 3 children before emigrating to England and settling in Huddersfield in or around 1875. I have no further recorded evidence of their Irish families but plucked names from baptismal and marriage records of witnesses who may or may not have been related, such as Bridget Kennedy, Mary Elizabeth Molloy, Edward Molloy, Julia Molloy, Rose Molloy, Martin Brennan. Their children were Julia Brennan 1870, Patrick 1872 died 1872, Ellen Georgina 1874, Martin Henry 1878 died 1917 in France, Bridget M 1879, Laurence 1882 (my great grandfather), and Daniel 1884.

    Wednesday 8th May 2024, 03:03AM

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