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My 3rd great-grandmother Mary Hall (or Hale) was 22 years old when she was tried and convicted at Louth, on 19 April 1832, of stealing cheese. She was transported to Australia on the "Caroline". She was Catholic. I do not know which Parish she came from.

Her parents are said to have been David Hale or Hales, and Bridget Hall. The surnames could also have been the other way around. I have no other details of the family, and no original source verification.

When is Australia, Mary married three times, first to William Mayberry till his death in 1842, then to Samuels Riches (Richards) till his death in 1848, then finally to Samuel Dowdie till his death in 1879. Mary outlived all her men and died in 1890 at Taree, New South Wales.

I have an ancestry.com subscription that I have milked what I can from, and have also searched many, many online records. Perhaps someone 'on the ground; can provide a new lead.

Kind regards,

gene.genie

gene.genie

Tuesday 30th Apr 2013, 08:18PM

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  • Hello Genie !!

    just looked at your interesting query. Firstly 1822 is outside the period of civil registration in Ireland which commenced in 1864 for all people. (1845 for Protestant Marriages) So parish registers for Catholics or Protestants are your main source and this site while requiring a subscription allows a certain amount of searching.

    See: http://www.rootsireland.ie/ and you can identify if any Halls / Hales are in the area.  A lot of catholic parishs started later than this period. Your queries are on the cusp of when the Catholic Parishes started keeping records.

    There is a site specifically for Louth at http://www.jbhall.freeservers.com/ and note the name of the author, I have emailed him to see if he has any knowledge of your query. If you check the grave inscriptions for Louth there are lots of Hall and Hale names around the county but specifically Drogheda where I am located.

    Headstones however were not wide spread at the time you are interested.

    The recently published tithe applotment books give names of people responsible for paying a church tax if the occupied over an acre of land but again it is just showing you where families were located (http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/home.jsp )  as does the 1796 Flax Growers List at this site. http://www.failteromhat.com/flax/louth.php There is 1 Hall in Tullyallen just north fo Drogheda and 2 Hales 1 in Dundalk and 1 in Ardee but this really does not assist you.

    The Irish Times gives family locations in the mid 1850s (Griffiths I imagine) but also shows what records are available see http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/index.htm If you go to a county you can see available records but after that you pay.

    You can also search Family Search the Church of the Latter Day Saints site.

    Louth is a county but also has a small village called Louth in it, however the fact that she was convicted of stealing cheese in Louth is odd as the main centres of Magistrates Courts would be Drogheda; Dundalk and Ardee.

    Both these are local history sites in Louth which may interest you http://www.termonfeckinhistory.ie/ a town to the east and slightly north of Drogheda and for Mid Louth (Louth only measures about 40 miles long and maybe 20 wide at its widest and is the smallest county but densely populated compared to other counties that are not cities or containing cities. http://www.midlouthhistory.com/

    If you can find any families with the same Christian names it may give an indication but Irish records for the period you are talking about are very hit and miss.

    If you are interested in the actual county or area I can send you some local sites as the area has a long history,

    Also last Sunday there was an item on a radio show about a new book called Undaunted about Irish convicts to Australia and I do see you are in New Zealand so no offence intended!!!   :)

    See http://www.rte.ie/radio1/the-history-show/ ; and it is currently near the top as it was only last Sunday.

    Feel free to follow up with further questions.

    Regards
    Pat

    St Peters Louth, IrelandXO Volunteer

    Thursday 2nd May 2013, 10:25PM

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