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Michael Hogan and Catherine McCarthy were my great great great grandparents

looking for them and birth of my Great Great Grandmother Honora Hogan

left Cork to South Australia C1852-C1872.  Any help would be gratefully

received.

 

jan

Tuesday 19th Feb 2013, 12:37AM

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  • An Honora was baptised in 1846 to a Michael and Catherine - surname unknown in Cork.


     


    I will send details of how I found this person later.


     


    Bob Graham (County Fermanagh XO)

    County Fermanagh

    Tuesday 19th Feb 2013, 03:04PM
  • In this example I was looking for a Minnie and Catherine Wiley sisters parents unknown.


    How I did it was to use the pay to view site


    http://rootsireland.ie/


    I did firstly a national search for Minnie which threw up a couple both in Antrim. I then switched to County Antrim.


    By playing about with the date range I was able to narrow down the baptism to a specific year. I still have not used the pay to view option yet nor used up any of my limited number of free previews. Once I had a Minnie I had to find her parents first names. I started with father first name a - this would bring up any firstnames starting with "a". Working through the alphabet got me to H when I got a hit adding further letters and worked out father was Hugh. Search then for Wiley children no firstname father Hugh within ten years of Minnie. Got 6 hits and using same technique was able to work out the 6 names - but no Catherine. Minnie is a common nickname so reverted to Catherine. Broad search found two which narrowed down to one in 1868 and one in 1872. Was able to work out 1868 was daughter of John and Mary. Broad search found no other children to this couple. 1872 Catherine was daughter of John and Jane and a broad search threw up 9 children. Plodding through the alphabet got me Alexander, Eliza, Catherine, Eleanor, Francis, John, James, Samuel, Wilhemina, which was more complicated since it is usually spelled WilheLmina.  Catherine I knew was 1872, and bit of playing about with date range got me 1881 for Wilhemina. Age gap fits the two sisters although the ages are well out - no surprises there!


    You can play about with the dates until you match up the other 7 children. You can refine it a bit more by choosing one child then working your way through the drop down menu of the various parishes until you get a hit. Then you can see if all the other children were also in the same parish. Bearing in mind couples did move about as well as changing churches. It is quite possible that these 9 children were born to more than one couple named John and Jane.  Getting one transcript should give mothers maiden name and doing a broad search for baptisms to John and Jane with new surname hopefully should confirm 9 children. However many older records do not list mother's maiden name. Using this technique you can gain a lot of data without using up your limited number of free searches or having to buy any transcripts.


     


    Bob Graham (County Fermanagh XO)


     

    County Fermanagh

    Tuesday 19th Feb 2013, 06:56PM
  • Hi Bob

     

    Any further info you have would be appreciated.  Thank you

    jan

    Tuesday 19th Feb 2013, 10:00PM
  • Have you any more information?  You say they left from Cork but was that their point of departure from which they sailed, or their actual native place?

    I have Hogans marrying McCarthy's and I live in Australia. with such common names, one would need a little more information in order to be able to make any connection.

     

     

    skyrish2us

    Wednesday 20th Feb 2013, 12:44AM
  • Sadly  I cannot confirm how or when Honora Hogan arrived into South Australia.  She just seems to appear there around 1878 not sure If she came alone or with any siblings or even with her parents.    The information I have is from her Marriage Certificate in NSW in 1892 to William Dowling.  That is where I have discovered the name of her Mother  Catherine McCarthy and Michael Hogan both deceased at the time of the Marriage together with Honora's Birth place noted  as Cork.  Have found Honora Hogan Baptism details on the rootsirland site with Michael Hogan and Catherine McCarthy as her parents, in March 1846 with the address as Mulberry Lane, Mitchelstown Co Cork.  Honora Hogan and William Dowling resided in South Australia and had children there before moving to Como NSW where they had more children,  Both William and Honora died in Queensland. 

    jan

    Tuesday 26th Mar 2013, 11:58PM
  • Hi BobThank you I have found the Baptism for Honora Hogan in Co Cork with your assistance.

    jan

    Tuesday 26th Mar 2013, 11:59PM
  • Hello Jan,

    I too an searching for Honora Hogan's (my Great Great Grandmother) parents, Michael Hogan & Catherine McCarthy from Mitchelstown, Cork!

    I have gotten as far as it appears you have above (The Baptism of Honora).

    I never met her, but it appears from Family stories (& Newspaper Articles I've found on her), she may have led a little bit of a sad life with William Dowling (her Husband).

    I'd love to hear from you, & see how your research is going :)

    Cheers,

    Nikkii

    nikkiijo

    Tuesday 19th Aug 2014, 02:15PM
  • Hi Nikkii

     

    You may get an email twice for some reason it did not show as being sent. 

    Anyway I would really like to catch up and share the information we have on Honora, I too think, from what I have discovered that her life was miserable.

    If you would like to email me:

    jmcg50@gmail.com

    Look forward to hearing from you.

    Regards

    Jan

     

     

    jan

    Thursday 21st Aug 2014, 03:29AM
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    Thursday 21st Aug 2014, 04:36AM

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