William Robert Renison searching for birth records

Antoinette:

I searched the Griffiths Valuation head of household listings from the mid-19th century for all of Ireland and the only Renison records were three in Co. Antrim and Robert Renison in Lacka townland in Loughkeen civil parish in Co. Tipperary. I assume that is the Robert you mentioned in your note.

I searched Roots Ireland and did not find a baptismal record for William around 1839. I assume your family was Church of Ireland. Roots has considerable records for the C of I churches in Co. Offaly including Birr, Tullamore, Shinrone etc. I also looked in North Tipperary and the only record I could find was an 1843 record in Birr RC church for a Bridget Renison with father William.

Can you clarify the religious denomination?

Roger McDonnell

Dear Antoinette and Roger,

I posted another account in the ROSCREA parish section.  My great-great-great grandparents were Robert Renison (b. 1796 94 1798 and Jane Eddington (b. 1809 or 1811), and married 1828.  Their youngest child was my great-great grandfather, Robert J. Renison born in 1853, and he was the 12th child of Robert and Jane.  The only birth record I have found of all their 12 children is for Catherine, born in the year after their marriage in 1829 and baptised in SHINRONE.  I am guessing Catherine was the oldest born in 1829, and Robert the youngest born in 1853, when Jane was 42 years old.  Family accounts place the older children of Robert and Jane in South Africa, and one in Australia.  The younger two, Thomas and Robert (my ancestor) went ultimately to the United States.  They were Church of Ireland, which is Episcopalian in the United States.  Thomas became a lawyer, and Robert became a Canon in the Church in Los Angeles after doing missionary work in Canada beginning in 1880.

Brent William Renison, Oregon, USA

Hi Antoinette,

Hope this helps.....Elizabeth Rennison birth 1793 death 1866 Parsonstown age 73

William Rennison birth 1810 death 1870 Parsonstown age 60

Robert Rennison birth 1797 death January 1881/ March 1881 Parsonstown, ireland

All info from 'Ireland Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958'.

Michael Rennison married in 1865 in Parsonstown.....Emily Mary Rennison married Oct 1899/Dec 1899 Parsonstown.

Ellen Rennison married Jan 1918/Mar 1918 in Birr(Parsonstown).

Elizabeth Rennison born 1865 in Parsonstown....'Female' Rennison born 1866 in Roscrea.

Ellen Rennison born 1868 in Parsonstown....George Thomas Rennison born in 1872 in Parsonstown

Emma Rennison born in 1874 in Parsonstown....Adalade Rennison born in 1875 in Parsonstown...more to come...john Kelly.

More info Antoinette......

Alice Jane Rennison born 1877 Parsonstown....Frances born Apr 1880/Jun 1880 Parsonstown.

Florence born Jul 1882/Sept 1882 Parsonstown....All info in 'Ireland Births and baptisms 1620-1881'.

The above children were born to Michael Rennison and Ellen Read.Michael was born in 1835, his father was John Rennison .

Michael's wife Ellen Read's father was called Hiram Read.You can find their marriage under 'Ireland Marriages 1619-1898'.

Also there is a record of Michael Rennison (United Kingdom , Chelsea Pensioners' Service Records 1760-1913) birth 1805 in Kings County (Offaly) for a pension from the UK for military service.There is also a record for a Moses Rennison birth 1807 in Kings(Offaly) for the same pension.There is also a record for a William Rennison birth 1824 in Kings for a pension.

In the 'Ireland Applotment Books 1814-1855' there is a Jno Renison 1824 Shinrone - Tax assessment also William Renison Shinrone 1824 - Tax Assessment. Also Robert Rennison 1824 Shinrone (Shinrone Green, Kings) and Jas Renison (Shinrone Green,Kings).Presumably all brothers. more info to come ..regards john kelly

Hi Antoinette,

Ellen Renison birth 1839 death April 1921/Jun 1921 Parsonstown (Birr)

Margaret Renison birth 1864 death july 1886/Sept 1886 Roscrea (Tipperary).

James Renison birth 1830 death July 1887/Sept 1887 Roscrea

Another James Birth 1865 death July 1894/Sept 1894 Roscrea

Bridget birth 1828 death April 1899/Jan 1899 Roscrea. All info in ' Ireland Civil Registration Index 1845-1958'.

You may also have relations in Fermoy County Cork through marriage an  Renisons moving to that area.

Hope this helps....John Kelly.

Good afternoon

Thank you for all the above information. The church would have been Church of Ireland I am almost 100% sure.

I have just returned from Ireland today after a visit undertaken to visit the areas where I believe my ancestor was born or lived. No new information was uncovered but to visit Birr, Roscrea and Loughkeen, etc. was truly something special.

I will use the information to try and delve further.

Antoinette

Antoinette:

Please see new comments posted today.

Roger McDonnell

http://www.irelandxo.com/ireland-xo/message-board/rennison-shinrone-off…

Hi Antoinette,

Please email me: brent@entrylaw.com

I did a y-chromosome DNA test through FamilyTreeDNA, and found that I am in the H haplogroup associated with India, which is attributed to the Romany people of Europe.  William Renison was a weaver, and that is one of the common occupations of the Romany people.  I believe our family, the Renisons, were Romany (Gypsies) who either came to Ireland from Europe or from England / Scotland, sometime in the sixteenth or seventeenth century.  The y-DNA is passed down through the male chromosome without change over many hundreds of years so can be used to trace surnames through the centuries. I believe I am the only Renison so far tested.  I match the DNA signature associated with the Locke, Campbell, and Bailey families, which were Gypsy families from Europe.  This is an interesting breakthrough in our Renison family history.

Brent William Renison

USA

Good evening Brent

This is very exciting news! There are many male Renisons in South Africa, all descended from William Robert and Benjamin Joseph although I don't have much contact with most of them. However, I do have contact with someone who is researching the Renisons and will pass this information on to him should there be any interest in anyone doing a test.

I have to say this information rings very true to me as my father had a dark complexion with black hair and it was always said he inherited his looks from his Irish ancestors! That said, he could also very easily have been Spanish, Egyptian, Israeli or Lebanese (or Indian for that matter!)

Please keep me posted of any further developments and thank you so much for posting this message.

Antoinette