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Hi, I wonder if anyone has any idea's on baptism documentation for my gt grandfather John Concannon born Roscommon 1864, his father was Martin Concannon and mother was Bridget Frain both married at the R/C church in Ballinlough 1861, they had four children in Ireland before moving to the UK Walsall area abt 1869/70. The names of the children were Catherin born 1863;John born 1864;Patrick 1865 and Michael 1867, I have found baptism for Catherine, Patrick and Michael all at Ballinlough but nothing for John my gt grandfather which I found strange as his siblings records are in Ballinlough church records, also I have been struggling to find any birth info of my 2x gt grandfather Martin, from England census of 1871 and 1881 and also Philadelphia death records he was born abt 1837 and on his death record his father was John Concannon, the family all came from around the area of Meeltraun O'Flyn and Derrylahan, any help would be great

Kind Regards

Paul C

p.concannon

Saturday 19th Jul 2014, 04:41PM

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  • Paul:

    From my experience, sometimes the church records have inexplicable gaps and possibly your John was part of a gap in 1864.

    Civil registration started that year and your family would have been in the Castlereagh registration district. I did not find a record in 1864 for a John Concannon. The first record to show up in that area was a John Concannon in 1870.

    If your Martin was born in 1837, there would be no church records because they started in 1839.

    Let me know if you have any questions.

    Roger McDonnell

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Saturday 19th Jul 2014, 05:31PM
  • Hi Roger, thank you for taking time to look at my post, if you are right about the gap in church records then I have no chance of finding my John but I can't see that a catholic family would not have had him baptised when all his siblings were, can you? I got the name of Martins father from his death cert in Philadelphia and then searched for a John Concannon Kiltullagh the only one that came up in the Griffiths was John Concannon at 3 Meeltraun O'Flyn, Martin's marriage cert shows him living at Derrylehan which I think is very close to Meeltraun O'Flyn so I have assumed and I know I should'nt that the John in the Griffiths his his father as the Concannon's in Roscommon at the time were very thin on the ground so to speak not like Galway where there are many, I have a relative comming to Ireland in October do you think it would be worth a visit to the church in Ballinlough if not where do you think she should start to look?

    Kind Regards

    Paul

    p.concannon

    Thursday 24th Jul 2014, 07:15PM
  • Paul:

    Derrylahan is the townland immediately to the south of Meeltraun (O'Flyn).

    The church visit is a good idea but I would contact them prior to the visit to make sure they are willing to assist.

    Roger

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 24th Jul 2014, 08:09PM
  • Hi, Many thanks for that Roger

    Regards

    Paul

    p.concannon

    Thursday 24th Jul 2014, 08:42PM
  • Here is a link to the Irish Parish Registers which are now online free with the NAtional Library of Ireland. These are digital versions of the original books. 

    http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632061#page/52/mode/1up

    You could try the neighbouring parish of Annagh (Ballyhaunis, Co. Mayo) or (Dunmore, Co Galway) in case the mother came from one of these parishes and had John in her home - unusual but sometimes happened i.e. if she were having a difficult pregency. 

    martincmeehan

    Saturday 31st Oct 2015, 10:19PM
  • Hi Paul,

    Im not sure if you were able to receive any more information but if so i would really love to hear it.

    In lookin over your origional post i think your grandfathers brother Patrick is my Great great grandfather.

     

    Thank You,

    Kimberly

    Wednesday 1st Sep 2021, 10:27PM

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