On the immigrant ship Palestine which arrived in Sydney in 1841 Patrick ( Martin) Dolan ( known as Doolan in Australia) aged 23, can read and write, was a native of Roscommon parents names Patrick and Eleanor Dolan his father is dead- an ag lab and domestic servant He and his wife Eleanor are both C of E. Her parents were Robert and Jane Rainey her father is dead She is a domestic servant aged 22 can read but not write Householders certifying character = Thomas Atherton and John Brennan and Magistrate or clergyman is Edward Day all of Roscommon. Patricks death cert in 1906 his father is Patrick Doolan school teacher and his mother Ellen O"?onnor. He married Ellen Rennie in Roscommon so possibly 8 May 1838 Roscommon. There may have been a child died before they came but son Robert William was on ship with them. On Ellens death cert her father is Robert Rennie farmer and mother Ellen? ( on ships record noted as Jane Rainey)
Any information or further search sites to check gratefully received with thanks
fergcanb
Tuesday 16th Jul 2013, 05:57AMMessage Board Replies
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Hi,
Thank you for your message.
Unfortunately, it may be difficult to find information without a more specific place of origin. Most Irish record sources- church records, land records, census records- are based on specific locations. Until you know a specific location within Ireland, preferably a parish or placename, it may be difficult to do anything more with these records.
Do you have any documentation pertaining to the family that mentions any place names in Roscommon at all? This can include wills, marriage/death records,census records, letters, diary entries etc.
You could try searching for records at the following sites, however please note that these websites do not have complete collections:
www.familysearch.org has a huge database of genealogical records including some church records for Ireland.
www.rootsireland.ie have a large collection of Irish Church records, however you have to pay to use this site.
Have you tried looking for the family in the Tithe Applotment Books?These are land records dating from 1823-1838. Although they do not give any genealogical information they can sometimes be used to tie a person to a specific place. Three results came back for Patrick Dolan in Roscommon:
It may be an idea to contact the Strokestown Community Development Association in Roscommon to see if they can be of any assistance to you. Here is their email address:
In the meantime some websites that you may find useful are:
The National Archives of Ireland http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/introduction/
The National Library of Ireland http://www.nli.ie/en/family-history-introduction.aspx
Genealogy Links: http://www.genealogylinks.net/uk/ireland/roscommon/index.html
From Ireland: http://www.from-ireland.net/county-roscommon-genealogy/
Interment: http://www.interment.net/ireland/roscommon.htm
Historic Graves: http://historicgraves.com/
Remember to post any new information that you find here. The more information you post, the more likely it is that one of our volunteers will be able to advise or assist you. Also include information concerning which sources you may have already used so others may further your search.
Kind regards,
Genealogy Support
Emma Carty
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Thank you Emma I will contact scda@eir.com.net but not much use if I dont have a parish on the main line archive sites so I will try to narrow it down some more. Do you think that tracing the ?mportant"people such as magistrate clergyman Edward Day and character witnesses Thomas Atherton and John Brennan would give a place or parish of residence.
Is there such a place as Roscommon Roscommon? Patrick named his property and land in Australia Roscommon so it would seem more likely that it was an area closer to home.
With thanks
fergcanb
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Hi, thanks for getting back to me.
I am not sure if tracing the ?important? people would be any easier. You will still need to know where they were based to know which records were relevant. Also, records of the clergy are closed records and not available to the public so it may be difficult to access them.
In answer to your other question, yes there is a Roscommon parish in County Roscommon. Roscommon is found in this parish:
All the best,
Emma
Emma Carty
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Following up on original message. Still looking for parish in Roscommon for Patrick Dolan /Doolan. As he named his property in Australia Roscommon I believe it is probably Roscommon Roscommon. Further information in Immigration record is "By whom imported" -Grant -Jamison. Grant was Captain Alexander Grant H.M. 61st Reg of Foot who sold his commission in order to purchase land in 1839 at Krawaree near Braidwood NSW AUS in partnership with Captain Trevelyn. This is where Patrick and his wife and child went when they arrived in Australia. Very much pioneer country. Dolan on immigration record and one of his sons kept Dolan as his name but all the others were Doolan. If his father was a schoolteacher perhaps there would be some record?. Also his mother was Eleanor O'Connor who was still alive when they departed for AUS in 1841
fergcanb
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I have been trying to track ancestors from Roscommon, Roscommon mid 1800's as well and recently found (via getting death certificates) mine were from a tiny, tiny place called Catron Coote just to the NE of Roscommon. The family name also checks out on the 1901 census at the same place. Death certificates can be very helpful sometimes.
Max Kenny