Havican/Hevican Family

Mark:

Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

The Kilbride records are on Roots Ireland which is a subscription site. The baptismal records start in 1835 and no Thomas shows up so possibly he was born right before 1835. There are six Hevican baptismal records in Kilbride parish from 1838-1849--John, Michael, Margaret, Mary, Patrick and Brigid. I assume they were from the same family.

Do you know the names of Thomas' parents?

If they went to India then Thomas was likely a soldier or possibly a civil servant.

The online Irish phone book  https://www.eirphonebook.ie/   which is a partial list of phone users has one Hevican record and one Havican record in Co. Roscommon. Make sure you use the Residential TAB.

Questions?

Roger McDonnell

Hi Roger

Thank you so much for your quick response and advice. My great x3 grandad Thomas Havican' parents were Peter Hevican and Mary Hevican(born McDermott). Thomas' siblings on my records are Michael, Mary and Patrick. My aunty has confirmed you are correct with regards to their journey to India as she say's Thomas was in the military.

​Thanks again Roger

kind regards

Mark Greenhalgh

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Mark:

Below are the transcriptions of the baptismal records for four children. Note the Mary record has Margaret as the mother which could be a transcription error or the register was wrong or a different family. No address info shown and no Peter Havican/Hevican in the 1855 Griffiths Valuation. Here is a link to the RC parish register  http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0559

Roger

Name:John HevicanDate of Birth:12-Nov-1838
Date of Baptism:10-Oct-1010Address:
Parish/District:KILBRIDEGender:MaleCountyCo. Roscommon
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Peter HevicanMother:Mary McDermottOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Mark Cryan Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Catherine Kelly 

Name:Michael HevicanDate of Birth:27-Jul-1843
Date of Baptism:10-Oct-1010Address:
Parish/District:KILBRIDEGender:MaleCountyCo. Roscommon
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Peter HevicanMother:Mary McDermottOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Thomas Ratigan Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Catherine Hunt 

Name:Patrick HevicanDate of Birth:08-Feb-1844
Date of Baptism:10-Oct-1010Address:
Parish/District:KILBRIDEGender:MaleCountyCo. Roscommon
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Peter HevicanMother:Mary McDermottOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Patrick Walsh Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Margaret McDermott 

Name:Mary HevicanDate of Birth:22-Mar-1846
Date of Baptism:10-Oct-1010Address:
Parish/District:KILBRIDEGender:FemaleCountyCo. Roscommon
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Peter HevicanMother:Margaret McDermottOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Patrick Beatty Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Brigid Durham 

Thanks again Roger, that's brilliant. I did make one mistake as Thomas Havican' mothers name was Maria McDermott not Mary, but she could have also been known as Mary or Margaret I suppose in those days. I also have a record of Thomas' passing as he died in 1913 in Newton Health, Manchester.

​Thanks again for your help Roger

All the best

Mark

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Mark:

Maria and Mary were interchangeable.

Roger

Thanks Roger

​I've also just seen Peters name spelt Petri and Maria's name spelt Mariae on another family document.

​Thanks

Mark

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Mark:

Possibly, Latin although Petrus is Latin for Peter.

Roger

Thanks Roger, it does get confusing with so many different name's being used and spelt differently by the same person. I spent a long time thinking my grandad's name was Frank as that's what he used, but I found out in later life his name was William Francis.

Thanks again Roger you have been very helpful.

Kind regards,

Mark. 

Hi Roger

I hope you are well.

I have done more research into my great great grandma's father Thomas Havican, and he and Mary Conroy left Roscommon in c1867 and were married in Preston, Lancashire in 1867 the same year they left for India. I have also found there is a Thaddeus Havican on the Griffith valuation along with Peter and Patrick Havican. I was just hoping to get your thoughts on whether Thomas may have been Thaddeus and later changed his name to Thomas? Apolgies Roger I know you can't answer all of my questions and I am just guessing really from my side. I am getting a feeling that Thomas and Mary may of ran off to England as I think I'm right in guessing it was probably unusual for them not to have been married in Roscommon with their family present in those times.

Thanks again for all of your time and help Roger,

Kind regards,

Mark Greenhalgh

Mark:

Thaddeus was also Thady and sometimes Timothy but not Thomas.

Roger

Hi Roger

I hope you are well. I contacted you a couple of months ago regarding my greatx3 grandad Thomas Havican born 1838 in Kilbride parish, Roscommon and his father Peter Hevican. With your help I finally managed to find Thomas on​ the Kilbride microfilm baptism records on 12th November 1838, and again with your advice I found Peter on the Griffiths valuation. Peter is also recorded on the English census 1864 with his lodgings address in Roscommon.

​Thanks again Roger for your time and great advice.

​All the best

​Mark Greenhalgh

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Mark:

Thanks for the update on your findings! All the best with your research!

Roger