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Lawrence and Mary are my great great grandparents. born circa 1830.  Their daughter Catherine, my great grandmother, was born in Aclare in January 1855.  I found a baptism record for her, Catherina McIntyre, which shows her parents as Larry and  Maria Goldrick.  Lawrence and Mary were married in Yorkshire in 1847, the marriage certificate shows their fathers' as John McIntire and Michael Goulding.  There is also a reference to her father as William Lawrence McIntyre and her mother as Mary Gouldin on the birth certificate of Catherine's youngest sister Mary Ann.

The only reference to Lawrence and Mary's place of birth is "Sligo" in a UK census.  I would love to find information on them and their families.

irishdescendant

Friday 14th Feb 2014, 05:12PM

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  • Hi Anne

    There is a record of the baptism of Maria Golrick in 1832 Sligo on www.rootsireland.ie/

    There are no Goldricks or Gouldings

    http://ifhf.rootsireland.ie/quis.php?page=1&confirmPageView=Y

    It costs to view the full record on rootsireland but it will have the parish and POSSIBLY the parents' names. I searched with father's name Michale but got no matches.

    I couldn't find a Lawrence or William.

    There are no McIntyres or Gouldins in Sligo in the Tithe Applotments 1823-37 (free online)

    Col

    ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Saturday 15th Feb 2014, 06:49AM
  • Hi Col,

    thank you for the information.  I will check it out for Maria on rootsireland,  In Yorkshire all the census records show spellings of Goulding, Goulden even Jolden for Mary's (Maria) younger sister Ellen, I can only assume they had strong Irish accents and Yorkshiremen couldn't quite understand them added to which they couldn't read or write so wouldn't know it was incorrect in the census records.

    My great great grandfather is named as Lawrence on his marriage certificate and in all the census except when trying to trace them in 1861 when I found them living in Hull, East Yorkshire, which is where Mary Ann was born.  On her birth certificate and the census he is named as William Lawrence.  Every other detail, even down to him being a "Tailor journeyman", fit with everything else I have found.

    I have seen the spelling of McIntyre as McEntire on the Irish website so perhaps there is still hope of me finding them.

    Thanks again,

    Anne

    irishdescendant

    Saturday 15th Feb 2014, 10:58AM
  • Hi Anne

    Had another look for McEntire and got a Lawrence on rootsireland.ie but he's McAteer 1835 Louth

    http://ifhf.rootsireland.ie/quis.php?page=1&confirmPageView=Y

    Father is not Michael.

    There are 8 Williams born 1830 + - 3 years but none with father Michael & none in Sligo

    http://ifhf.rootsireland.ie/quis.php?page=0&prevStartQuery=0

    Col

    ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Saturday 15th Feb 2014, 08:36PM
  • Hi Col,

    Thank you again for your time spent searching.

    I have yet to log on to rootsireland to check the Maria Golrick record but will do so.  It is trying to be 50%+ certain of a record, I have made some costly mistakes.

    Anne

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    irishdescendant

    Tuesday 18th Feb 2014, 12:20PM
  • Good Evening. I am a McIntyre by birth. My McIntyres lived in Lislea, Kilmacteige, Sligo.  My Thomas McIntyre b1878 arrived in the US in 1904 and settled in Chicago, Illinois. His parents were Lawrence McIntyre (1854-1931) and Mary Ginty (c1850-1930). Lawrence's parents were Michael McIntyre (c1805-1891) and Mary (last name given as McIntyre on the baptismal record of Lawrence) died before 1891. I have a website at www.McIntyreGenealogy.com that gives most of the information I know about my McIntyres. Would love to learn more about the McIntyres of Lislea, Kilmacteige, Sligo. Elaine McIntyre Beaudoin

     

    Elaine McIntyre Beaudoin

    Saturday 20th Nov 2021, 02:24AM
  • Hello Elaine, it is nice to hear from someone descended from McIntyres', it has been several years since I heard from anyone on this forum.  I apologise upfront if what follows seems long drawn out.  

    It has been a difficult journey discovering anything about my Irish roots.  Most of the information I have involves UK census records and BMD certificates.  My 2xgt grandfather William married Mary Goulding in my home town of Keighley in 1847 at the Roman Catholic church of St Anne's.  The respective father's are named as John McIntyre and Michael Goulding.  Both were labourers and as neither are described as "deceased" I assume were still alive.  However, what I don't know was whether they were still in Ireland or the UK.

    Whilst most census records stated that they were born in Ireland, on one census both William and Mary are listed as being born in Sligo.  They had one daughter, Winnifred (Winnefred) born in 1849 in Keighley, Yorkshire. 

    Their second daughter, my gt grandmother Catherine was born in Ireland.  I have no knowledge of why they had returned to Ireland.  On the 1901 census she stated she was born in Aclare (Co. Sligo). It took quite a while to find a baptism for her.  That was in 1855. Catherina McIntyre, townland Aclare, parish of Kilmacteague, Co. Sligo, father Larry, mother Maria Goldrick. All the details are correct except the mother's name.  I have seen Mary's name spelt as Goulding, Gouldin even Jolden (assigned on one census to her sister who was living with them in Keighley aged 15).

    The last daughter Mary Ann was born in 1860 in Hull, East Yorkshire, and it is on her birth certificate it names her father as William Lawrence.  She married John Loftus and they emigrated to the US.  I found one further record for a birth of a son, John Edward born in Keighley in 1870, but he died an infant.

    My search of Irish records seemed to prove that many records for the relevant period of William and Mary's births were destroyed in the fire in the Dublin archives in the 20th century.  And I have yet to find any parish records for either of them or their parents other than John McIntyre listed as living in Lislea in the tithe records of 1825.  Lislea is approx. 650 yards from Aclare, virtually part of the townland.

    Other McIntyre's living in Keighley or in close proximity to Lawrence and Mary include a John McIntyre born 1824 married Catherine Narey.  Bridget McIntyre born 1828 married John Paton. They also lived in Keighley and are buried there.  The last in my records in a Miles McIntyre born 1839 in Glenasky, Co. Sligo, married Catherine Toker born Bonyconlin.  They had 10 children all born in Keighley, only three survived in to their teens/adulthood.  

    I have much more to search to find if John, Bridget and Miles are siblings of Lawrence, this would depend on purchasing more marriage certificates to see if their father's are named John and providing they took place in Yorkshire.

    I briefly looked at your genealogy website but couldn't spend much time reading the information.  I did see you have taken DNA tests, can I ask if you have taken one from Ancestry website and if so do you have a tree on Ancestry connected to your DNA results.  It would be one way of discovering if we have any connection.  

    If you have any questions please get in touch.

    Regards,

    Anne Clarke (another Irish name!)

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    irishdescendant

    Sunday 21st Nov 2021, 04:12PM
  • Thank you Anne for your message. It is crazy around here due to Thanksgiving, so I will respond after the holiday when I have had a moment to carefully go through all your information. 

    I have taken the Ancestry DNA test as well as 23 and Me, FTDNA and have uploaded to My Heritage. However, my brother and uncle, both McIntyres, have taken the Y-DNA test at FTDNA. If you have a male McIntyre, perhaps that would be one way to test out if we come from the same line. Additionally, there are two McIntyre Facebook groups, one is just communication: https://www.facebook.com/groups/MacAntSaoir and the other one is collecting McIntyre autosomal DNA via Gedmatch: https://www.facebook.com/groups/mcintyregedmatchproject . Both worth checking out.

    I am aware of the three McEntire/McIntyre in the Tithe records of 1825. Unfortunately, I don't know which one I descend from. How were you able to determine yours is John?

    Will be back in touch after the holiday.

    Elaine McIntyre Beaudoin

    Elaine McIntyre Beaudoin

    Tuesday 23rd Nov 2021, 03:52AM

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