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i'm wondering if anyone has information on my 2x great grandmother her name is margaret barry born 1836-40 in cloughjordan tipperary ireland her parents we're thomas barry and mary cooper i think she had a sister rose margaret married thomas hughes 24 oct 1860 in bendigo victoria australia any help would be greatly appreciated regards marilyn

marilyn

Tuesday 14th Aug 2012, 03:06AM

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  • Hi Marilyn,

     

    You could try checking the land records called the Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38) or the later Griffith's Valuation (1848-64). The Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38): Microfilm copies of the books for all of Ireland are available at the National Archives of Ireland (NAI) http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/tithe-applotment-books-and-the-primary-griffith-valuation/ or the Church of Latter Day Saints (LDS) https://familysearch.org/. Griffith's is freely available here: www.askaboutireland.com or here: www.failteromhat.com Failte Romhat has lots of other useful links you could try looking at. The Tithe Applotment List might be of use to you, or at least interesting for you. These lists constitute the only nationwide survey for the period, and are valuable because the heaviest burden of the tithes to the Established Church, the Church of Ireland, fell on the poorest, for whom few other records survive. The information in the Tithes is quite basic, typically consisting of townland name, landholder's name, area of land and tithes payable. Many Books also record the landlord's name and an assessment of the economic productivity of the land. The tax payable was based on the average price of wheat and oats over the seven years up to 1823, and was levied at a different rate depending on the quality of land. For Parishes where the registers do not begin until after 1850, this information can be useful, as they are often the only surviving early records. They can provide valuable circumstantial evidence, especially where a holding passed from father to son in the period between the Tithe survey and Griffith's Valuation.

    Church records may be of some help to you. Church of Ireland parish registers for the period up to 1870 are public records. Registers are available for about one third of the parishes, however many were destroyed in the Public Records Office in Dublin in 1922. Most are still held by the local clergy, although some are in the National Archives of Ireland and others are in the Representative Church Body Library in Dublin. A list of all surviving registers is available in the National Archives. http://ireland.anglican.org/about/42 and http://www.nationalarchives.ie/. Presbyterian registers are held in three main locations: in local custody, in the Public Records of Northern Ireland (PRONI) http://www.proni.gov.uk/index.htm and at the Presbyterian Historical Society in Belfast. PRONI has microfilm copies of almost all registers in Northern Ireland and also lists of records held by the Presbyterian Historical Society. For the rest of Ireland, almost all records are in local custody. It can difficult to locate these as many congregations in the South have moved, amalgamated, or simply disappeared over the last sixty years.  For Catholic records it may be beneficial to contact the local parish offices for further assistance. http://www.killaloediocese.ie/parish/cloughjordan/

    I wish you the best of luck with your research.

     

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    cynoconnor

    Thursday 16th Aug 2012, 12:55PM
  • Hi

    i live in Cloughjordan If I can be of assistance I'm tracing relatives please let me know. 

    Seamus

    Seacos

    Tuesday 2nd Oct 2012, 08:34AM
  • hi

    i have found abaptism for  rose barry 26 dec 1836 denomination  roman catholic in  cloughjordan parents thomas barry  and mary cooper have not been able to find anything on margaret barry or a marriage for thomas barry and mary cooper any help you can give me would be great

    marilyn

    marilyn

    Tuesday 9th Oct 2012, 04:18AM
  • My great grandmother was Julia Barry, born c1825 in Cloughjordan.  Her parents were Thomas Barry and Mary Cooper.  Julia married James Whelan (Phelan) in Melbourne on 2 September 1856.  They then went to Bendigo - the gold fields.  Sounds like your Margaret and my Julia were sisters.  Be very interested to hear from you  Mareestevens99@yahoo.com.  We intend to visit Cloughjordan in September this year.Maree.

    Maree Stevens

    Friday 12th Apr 2013, 12:50AM

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