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I hope I;m in the right place.  I am researching Owen McGlone (born abt 1835) son of Charles.  He married Mary Anne Morgan (born abt 1841) daughter of Alexander Morgan. They were married on August 22, 1853 in Dungannon. They had a daughter Mary Anne (born Jan 1857) She married Patrick Kerr (born March 1856) son of Patrick. They were maried September 14, 1876 in Cookstown.  Civil marriage record says Killeenan R.C. Chapel.   Patrick and Mary Anne are my GrGrandparents.  I am interested in finding anything I can about these families.  I know that Owen and Mary Anne had 5 children that I have found.  They were baptised in Clonavaddy, Pomeroy and Dungannon.  The records I've found don't give a name of the Church.  I also found Owen and Mary Anne on the 1901 Census in Cornamaddy. Altmore, Tyrone along with Patrick and Mary Annes son Michael Kerr. Is there a way to find that address now?  I am coming to the area in July 2019 and I would love to see the churches they were baptised and maried in, where they lived and where they might be buried.  I would be grateful for any help you could give me.

Thanks for your help,

Jean Sullivan Cardinal

 

 

 

JCARDINAL

Friday 23rd Nov 2018, 07:27PM

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  • Jean,

    Finding the McGlone farm is fairly straightforward. Charles & Owen had different farms in the same townland. Griffiths Valuation for 1860 lists his father Charles McGlone in Cornamaddy, on plot 12, a 7 acre farm. Nearby, Owen has plot 6 which is 15 acres of land, but no house. So he presumably had rented it in his own right but was still living in the original family home (plot 12). Plot 12 today is on the Aghafad Rd. Plot 6 is on the Cornamaddy Rd, near Safe Rock Minerals.

    http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=nameS…

    Use the slider bar on the Griffiths maps to switch from the contemporary map to a modern day one.

    Looking at the Valuation revision records (which take the Griffiths records forward) I see that Charles was replaced by Thomas Carroll in 1867, suggesting he had died. I don’t see a death for him in the statutory records (which start on 1.1.1864), so would guess he died just before that, 1860 – 1863.

    In 1870 Owen is recorded as acquiring plot 7 (as well as retaining plot 6). Plot 7 was a house and 7 acres. So he presumably farmed the 2 adjacent plots together. Owen remains tenant of both plots till 1907, then it looks as though Mary replaces him till 1909, after which a Robert Morrison takes over. (The records are quite hard to make out). Griffiths dates were often out by a year or two, as I see Owen died on 10.5.1905 at Cornamaddy, aged 65.

    https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/services/searching-valuation-revision-books

    Owen died intestate, but there should be a probate file for him in PRONI in Belfast. Here’s the abstract (brief summary):

    Administration of the estate of Owen M'Glone late of Cornamaddy County Tyrone Farmer who died 10 May 1905 granted at Armagh to Mary Anne M'Glone the Widow.

    I wouldn’t rely too heavily on Mary Anne’s age in the 1901 census. She was older than 60. Likewise you’ll see that Owen was 66 in the 1901 census but only 65 when he died in 1905. That’s fairly typical, reflecting the fact that most people didn’t really know how old they were and just guessed. As did the informant for a death (in this case his wife Mary). If Mary Ann married in 1853, she wasn’t 12. She’d have been at least 18, so probably born around 1835, or earlier.

    The statutory birth records start in 1864 and I see 4 children in them to Owen & Mary Anne: John 12.5.1865; Charles 4.7.1866; Owen 22.1.1871 & Thomas 4.11.1874. For their children born between 1853 and 1863, you’ll need to rely on the church baptism records.

    I noticed that another couple in the same area, at the same time, were also having children with the same names. James McGlone, farmer in Crannogue had married Martha Morgan. So I wonder if 2 brothers married 2 sisters? They had a son Owen born 4.11.1875 at Crannogue, but there were other children too.

    1901 census:

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Altmore/Crannogue/1734938/

    Can’t help with burial places. Contact the parochial office and ask them for guidance. Cornamaddy appears to be in Pomeroy RC parish:

    http://pomeroyparish.com/contact.php

    Tradition was to marry in the bride’s church (assuming they didn’t both attend the same church). So the place of marriage usually tells you where the bride’s family attended, but not necessarily the husband.

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Friday 23rd Nov 2018, 09:38PM
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    Thank you so much for all this information Elwyn!  I was confused about Cornamaddy because I couldn't find it on the map.  Did you find anything on the Kerr/Carr family?  I found the wedding record and some of thier children's births but nothing more than that.  They left for Pennsylvania in about 1888.  I was assuming what you said about Owen and James being brothere and marrying sisters but I haven't confirmed it yet.  Doy you have any suggestions on which city I should stay in if I want to visit Cookstown, Dungannon, Cornamaddy and Pomery?

    Thanks so much for your help,

    Jean

    JCARDINAL

    Saturday 24th Nov 2018, 04:13PM
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    Jean,

    You mentioned not being able to locate Cornamaddy. It probably doesn’t appear on most maps. It’s 576 acres of agricultural land. There’s nothing much there. In the 1901 census there were 28 houses with a combined population of 111. So it probably won’t come up on a google maps search.

    You ask about the Kerr family. I can’t add a lot to your information. You say that Patrick Kerr’s father was also called Patrick. According to the 1876 marriage certificate he was actually named Thomas (and was deceased at that time). He had been a farmer.

    I can see 2 children to the Kerr-McGlone marriage. Sarah born 18.3.1879 in Altmore. Patrick was a farmer at that date. Catherine was also born in Altmore on 27.11.1880. Patrick was a farm labourer by that date, so his circumstances had perhaps declined. Or he had exaggerated his position in 1879.  I looked in the Valuation Revision records on the PRONI site but there’s no trace of the family in Altmore townland around 1879 – 1886, so I don’t know where they lived.  From your information there was at least 1 more child (Michael born c 1884) but I can’t find that birth. I have tried the usual variant spellings (Carr etc) but don’t see it. It’s always possible it wasn’t registered.

    I am not clear what happened to the Kerr family between 1881 and 1888. If Patrick was just a farm labourer, the family probably moved from townland to townland to follow the available work, not staying very long and not showing up in any records. That can make them very difficult to trace.

    Regarding accommodation, I can recommend a nice guest house in Magherafelt (60 Church St). It’s Laurel Villa townhouse, run by Gerardine & Eugene Kielt. They are charming hosts and the guest house is lovely. In the summer months many of their guests are from the USA or Canada and are often researching their families.

    www.laurel-villa.com

    Magherafelt is only a few miles from Cookstown so you’ll be well placed for exploring the area.

    If you have an interest in the life and works of Seamus Heaney, the famous Irish poet, tell Eugene as he is an expert, and knew him well before he died a few years back.

    I hope you enjoy your visit.

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Sunday 25th Nov 2018, 03:01AM
  • Elwyn,

    Thank you for the information on Cornamaddy, I was hoping the houses were still there.  I will start going through the church records for Pomeroy and contact them to see if I can find anything.  I had hoped to visit the churches they were baptised in.  I googled Killeenan RC Chapel and got a location for that in Cookstown.  Thank you for the recomondation of the Laurel Villa, it looks perfect and I have several books of Seamus Heaney poems.

    Thanks for your help,

    Jean 

    JCARDINAL

    Sunday 25th Nov 2018, 05:41PM
  • Hello Jean,

    While I am not aware of your family ancestry, I can tell you that there is farm based B&B approximately 1/2 miles from Clonavaddy. Crockgarve B&B.

    I am also aware of a family of Kerr's who live quite close by. If your ancestors were registered in Clonavaddy, they may have been born in either Donaghmore Parish or in Killeeshill parish.

    In Killeeshill there is a Historical Society, also there is one in Donaghmore, you will find details of both these on line, members will gladly help you when you are in our area.

    Briege

    altadrum123

    Thursday 10th Jan 2019, 02:42AM
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    Briege,

    Thanks so much for the information!

    Jean

     

    JCARDINAL

    Monday 14th Jan 2019, 10:20PM
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