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I am a resident of the state of Vermont in the U.S. and would appreciate any help in gathering information about my g-g-g-grandfather and his family.  What I have researched thus far is that they emigrated from Ireland on the ship the Wave from Dublin and arrived at Castle Garden in N.Y. City on November 18, 1853.  The family members that were listed on that ship’s manifest were as follows:  Lawrence (born about 1803) and his wife, Esther (Essy) (born about 1813) with children:   James (born about 1835), Jeremiah (born about 1837), Patrick (born about 1839), Lawrence Jr. (born about 1840), Mary (born about 1843).  Esther’s maiden was Quinn or Quin.  I have also found another child, Catherine, who was born on Dec. 29, 1845 but for some unknown reason she did not emigrate with the rest of the family.  I would appreciate any help you could provide in learning more about the family’s life in Ireland and I thank you in advance.  

                                                                                                Sincerely,

                                                                                                      John Markey

John

Saturday 16th Mar 2019, 01:03AM

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  • John:

    Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

    I can't tell if you knew that the family was from Dublin and that most of the baptismal records were from St. Paul's Church in Arran Quay althout I did find the record for Lawrence Jr. in St. Mary's Pro-Cathedral.  I did not locate a marriage record. Some other points. James was actually born in 1832 and a transcription of the record from the subscription site Roots Ireland is below. Also, there was a Catherine born in 1833 (below) and likely she died in infancy and I would assume the 1845 Catherine also died in infancy or as a young child. I did not locate a record for Patrick or Jeremiah. FYI Dublin city records are on the free site www.irishgenealogy.ie  but parishes on the outskirts of Dublin city are on the subscription site Roots Ireland.

    Roger McDonnell

     

    Area - DUBLIN (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. NICHOLAS

    Baptism of LAURENCE MARKEY of N/R on 17 January 1840

    NameLAURENCE MARKEYDate of BirthN/R N/R N/RAddressN/RFatherLAURENCE MARKEYMotherESTHER QUIN

    Sponsor 1WM MURPHYSponsor 2MARGT KENNYPriest?

    Name:Catherine MarkeyDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:27-Oct-1833Address:
    Parish/District:ST.PAUL'S ARRAN QUAYGender:FemaleCountyCo. Dublin
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Laurence MarkeyMother:Esther QuinnOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:Thomas Rooney Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Catherine Hoye 

    Name:James MarkeyDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:10-Apr-1832Address:
    Parish/District:ST.PAUL'S ARRAN QUAYGender:MaleCountyCo. Dublin
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Laurence MarkeyMother:Esther QuinnOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:Mary Carr Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Joseph Wall 
     

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Saturday 16th Mar 2019, 01:38PM
  •  Hello Roger,

    Thank you for the information you provided for both Catherine and James Markey’s baptisms in Dublin; it’s appreciated.  I wasn’t sure if the family was indeed from Dublin or if that was just their port of emigration.  This was a question in my mind because on the ship’s manifest Lawrence lists his occupation as being a farmer, not what you would expect of a Dublin resident.  Who knows, perhaps that just made things easier upon arrival in New York?  My wife and I visited Ireland approximately 15 years ago (before doing any genealogy research) and another visit may be necessary.  Could you offer any tips as to what organizations or individuals that could help with doing further research prior  to that visit? Thank you again for your help.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        John Markey  

    John

    Monday 18th Mar 2019, 12:38AM
  • John:

    When you go back as far as 1850, I'm sure parts of Dublin and the outskirts of the city had rural areas.

    Finding records for Lawrence and Esther is problematic because you don't know their parents names and can't confirm any records you might locate. I did find a record for Lawrence and one for Esther on Roots Ireland close to the years you indicated but I did not search the Dublin city records at www.irishgenealogy.ie  

    You may want to contact the Dublin North heritage site which is located in Swords . For a fee, they can assist you further with your family research. 

    Roger

    Genealogy Centre Contact Details
    Swords Historical Society
    Carnegie Library, North St., Swords, Co. Dublin
    Tel: +353 (1) 8400080
    Email: swordsheritage@eircom.net

     

    Name:Laurence MarkyDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:28-Mar-1799Address:Not RecordedParish/District:BLANCHARDSTOWNGender:MaleCountyCo. Dublin
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Hugh MarkyMother:Bridget Not RecordedOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:Bernard Gogheran Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Sherry Bate 

    Name:Esther QuinnDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:03-Sep-1814Address:
    Parish/District:SWORDSGender:FemaleCountyCo. Dublin
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:John QuinnMother:Eliza DonnellyOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:James Quinn Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Margaret Collins 

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Monday 18th Mar 2019, 05:17PM
  • Roger,

    Thanks so much for your thoughts and suggestions.  You tip for the Swords Historical Society might be fruitful, I’ll pursue that soon.  Thanks again. 

                                                                                                                                                   John

    John

    Monday 18th Mar 2019, 11:55PM
  • The main Church for St. Paul's RC Parish* Dublin city was right on the Quays but during the 1830s Catholic parishes were often much larger, and St. Paul's Parish stretched from the banks of the river Liffey in the City north as far as Glasnevin which would have been in a rural part of County Dublin at that time. There was a chapel of ease for the parish in Phibsborough.

    Blanchardstown parish as mentioned in Roger's reply was a County Dublin parish located is not far west of Phibsborough, and looks like a promising lead.. the difficulty though is that not that all Catholic many parishes have records going back to 1803 so there could have been other Lawrence Markeys.

    Images of the registers for St. Paul's RC are available (free) on the National Library website, and have gbeen indexed by FindMyPast and Ancestry, and RootsIreland have transcripts for this parish (no images). Most of the other city parishes are available as both transcripts and images on the free IrishGenealogy website.

    Unfortunately it looks like your Lawrence left just before Griffith's Valuation took place in this area - if he was a farmer he would likely have been listed...  St. Nicholas Parish, where Laurence jnr was baptised is South City, so the other side of the River Liffey and well to the east of St. Paul's

    * there's also a St. Paul's Church of Ireland

    Shane Wilson, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Tuesday 19th Mar 2019, 02:54PM

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